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    10 months ago

    Just because we’re not yet at MegaGenocide™ package doesn’t mean much, most of Gaza is rubble now. That two million people have pretty much nowhere to return to. Israel wanted ethnic cleansing (as they have explicitly stated time and time again, Zionism is a fascist ideology) and they’re getting it

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      10 months ago

      I don’t disagree. Just realize, many, many more people can die. Netanyahu is a criminal, propped up by these ethno-nationalists. He doesn’t care.

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        10 months ago

        Bibi is also propped up by Biden’s unwavering support. The UN’s ceasefire resolution has been blocked 3 times by the US. Unchecked Zionism could easily lead to the catastrophic death tolls you refer to, as if 30k innocent civilians isn’t already beyond abhorrent. Biden is the most Zionist president in US history.

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          10 months ago

          Try floating a UN resolution that isn’t just calling for a cease fire, and actually has some enforcement mechanism. That might be worth a look.

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            Without a ceasefire, it isn’t possible for medical personnel to treat the 10s of thousands of sick, injured, and starving. IDF forces are blowing up ambulances trying to help.

            Without a ceasefire, critical humanitarian aid such as food, water, and medical supplies cannot be delivered. IDF forces are blowing up the delivery trucks even if they travel along so called safe and authorized corridors.

            Without a ceasefire, Israeli hostages held by hamas will continue to perish instead of get rescued. IDF forces brutal bombing campaign affects them just as much as Palestinian civilians.

            To demand anything less than a ceasefire is, at this point, to betray your racism and disregard for Arab lives.

            To suggest that the US isn’t also blocking UN efforts to send peacekeeping troops to monitor for and prevent war crimes being committed on a daily basis shows me you’re very ignorant, or extremely malicious. No amount of dead children could change your mind, and for those like Bibi, no amount of dead children will ever be enough.

            A ceasefire is only a mandatory first step. Israel must end the occupation. Palestine belongs to Palestinians.

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              10 months ago

              Yes, so, a ceasefire resolution that makes one happen somehow. Instead of just saying “please cease fire now, but if you refuse then nothing happens”. Which is all we’ve gotten so far.

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                10 months ago

                Could you elaborate on how you would amend a ceasefire resolution to accomplish the necessary goal of a ceasefire in the current political environment?

                I suspect we’ll stop at nothing, due to Bibi’s bloodlust and American desire to funnel taxpayer dollars to defense contractors who are arming the Israelis. What do you propose could change this equation to bring about peace?

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                  10 months ago

                  How about a one week time window before consequences kick in, starting with mild economic sanctions and slowly scaling up over time until a ceasefire is reached?

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                    I see what you’re getting at. Ramping up consequences via sanctions would be a great place to start!

                    I’d hope one of the first methods of doing this would be to cut off military aid for Israel…they’ve been getting ~$4bn/year from America for something like 40 years now, and this seems like an opportune time to stop funding them.