It’s always good to be in control of your own content sources.

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    Two major problems:

    1: very very few sites offer an rss feed anymore

    2: the ones that do either only offer the headline and then just a link to the web story, or if they give a full feed, inject ads into them, where you don’t have an adblocker to stop it

    I spent the better part of a month trying to curate an awesome rss feed and in the end, it’s still so actively hostile that it renders it’s barely usable

    Don’t get me wrong. I want rss to come back and be as usable as it was years ago. But it’s a shadow of what it used to be, and active hostile

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      2: the ones that do either only offer the headline and then just a link to the web story, or if they give a full feed, inject ads into them, where you don’t have an adblocker to stop it

      Thunderbird mostly solves this since it has a built-in browser and uBlock.

      Agreed on 1) the lack of RSS feeds. Lemmy also has a problem that RSS feeds aren’t federated, so commenting on new posts is very clunky.

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        You can however subscribe to your home feed in Lemmy, just like on Reddit, in which case it takes you to the post on your instance. That’s the main function I lack in kbin.

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      very very few sites offer an rss feed anymore

      I’m gonna have to disagree. It’s mostly the big social medias that don’t have them, (Facebook, Instagram and Twitter) but other blogs and news sites usually do have them.

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      This has been my experience as well this week. I’m so disappointed, it’s mostly just clickbaits and ads.

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      I use a self-hosted service called Full-Text RSS Feeds, to which my feed reader connects, and then it gets the full text instead of limited RSS text feed.

      It’s also worth using an RSS feed detector browser extension, because although sites don’t advertise RSS (or they don’t know what it is), often there are still active RSS feeds.

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    It’s wack how the internet seems to have collectively forgotten about this technology over the past decade, despite it not being the least bit obsolete.

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      It’s not ad-friendly, and does not force you to create yet another account in yet another walled garden for big-tech to collect your data.

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    I never stopped using RSS even when it supposedly “died”. Right now I have FreshRSS running on my raspberry pi since I like subscriptions and read state to sync between my machines but don’t like to depend on some company for that. I use Reeder for my iOS devices, which can sync with FreshRSS.

    For all folks say RSS is dead, I find a lot to fill it with. Blogs (yes I still read blogs like it’s 2005), webcomics (most comics with their own site offer one, and webtoon generates them for its comics, though it looks like tapas doesn’t or at least I can’t find any feeds there), tech news sites, scientific journals, lemmy and mastodon generate feeds for users and communities, even YouTube still generates feeds for individual channels. There’s a lot of feeds still active out there.

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      RSS is definitively not dead. I threw $99 for a lifetime Feedly subscription about 15 years ago, rather than roll my own aggregation, and it’s been my primary news source since.

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      I run FreshRSS too and I use Readrops as my client on Android. I prefer reading on the laptop or PC though.

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    For some reason, I could never get into RSS readers. I tried, but quickly felt overwhelmed and gave up. I’ve tried to get back into it over and over again, but always get just absolutely rocked by the amount of content that can be pulled in and get discouraged. It’s also hard and daunting to think about getting into it at this point, now, because there’s so much content out there that I don’t even know where to start with adding RSS links of stuff I follow…because sometimes I don’t even know where I get my stuff from (just from all over, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, email newsletters, kbin, Google News, etc.)

    A big part of it, I think, is the fact that RSS doesn’t have community curated content. to me, it just seems like such a wave of news content…but a lot of what I enjoyed about Reddit/social media (including kbin) is the community aspect, allowing for more nuanced and popular stuff to be driven to the top of the feed (based on upvotes, retweets, user activity, clicks, or what have you). So the lack of that in RSS stuff really hinders me from fully adopting it.

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      The trick to enjoy curated content via RSS is to subscribe to sources that curate your content rather than to raw news sources, e.g. subscribe a blog of a person that does important news reviews rather than to a newspaper raw feed. Otherwise the classic mailbox-like RSS reader experience indeed requires you to sift through content on your own and aggressively. That said, some commercial readers do try to algorithmically prioritize content based on your interest or offer discovery functions (a different kind of experience than direct community-based sorting of course, but there’s trade offs here)

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    I’ve been using RSS for years, but mostly because it’s been a convenient way to get updates for the webcomics I’ve been following for so long.

    Hopefully Lemmy picks up in popularity, as the main reason that I used reddit was for the tree-style discussion threads, which RSS can’t replace.

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    I had actually just been starting to build up an RSS roster prior to reddit’s API meltdown. Perfect timing!

    Just been getting tired of the internet being basically a small few sites, and wanting to get back to reading articles and blogs more.

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    Eh, FreshRSS keeps me up to date on my news, updates, and such- but, It doesn’t fill the void I get from staring endlessly at reddit/kbin/lemmy/etc!

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    I run a self-hosted copy of Commafeed, which is a seamless and fast replacement (both workalike and lookalike) for the late Google Reader. The main issue, really, is the long term decline of the blogosphere, which has severely decreased the number of interesting RSS feeds for me.

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    There’s a great piece of software called Kill the Newsletter that converts email newsletters into RSS feeds. Each feed gets a unique email address, and all emails to that address go into its RSS feed. It’s open-source so you can self-host it. It’s a good way to clean up your email inbox a bit.

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      An interesting idea. The bonus being that if spam starts showing up in your RSS feed, you know who sold your address.

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        I use a different email address for each site I sign up to, for this reason. I have a “catch all” email meaning everything @ my domain goes to the same email account. I found out about the LinkedIn data breach before I saw news reports about it because I suddenly started getting a lot of spam to my linkedin@ address :)

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    I think it would make sense to remind about the existence of rss-bridge for many sites that do not have an RSS feed.

    I’ve been using this for a few years and it’s really good.

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    Love RSS. Best way to read stuff online.

    I use Feedbin, which also provides a bespoke email you can use for newsletters so they’re also pulled into your feed. Very handy.

    If anyone wants a nice RSS reader for iOS, Reeder is great.

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      I use Feedbin, which also provides a bespoke email you can use for newsletters so they’re also pulled into your feed. Very handy.

      That’s genius! I would love that feature. I’ll have to check out Feedbin now, thanks for mentioning it!

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      How come?

      I get the top hacker news from an RSS feed (https://hnrss.github.io/), individual blogs, YouTube channels, twitter accounts (getting the RSS feeds from nitter), etc

      Most websites will have RSS hidden underneath.

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        the biggest thing that I would use it for would be individual blogs, I just only have 3 or 4 of those that I follow.

        For the others, it doesn’t help me that much to centralize them. Like with the hacker news rss feed, I can’t comment or interact from the rss reader, so I might as well use the website. With twitter, all of my twitter follows are already centralized on twitter; same with youtube, reddit, or lemmy – they already have feeds, and I can’t interact from my feedreader.

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          You could use it as a source for contributing links rather than interacting with existing threads. Which is more important in the early days, particularly for niche communities.

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      You may be interested to know that any Lemmy community can become an RSS feed. Look for the little RSS icon to the right of the Sort Type drop down, click that and it takes you to the RSS feed. That URL can then be pasted into just about any RSS reader and you will see a list of the latest topics. I use ProtoPage as my browser home page and have widgets that show me Beehaw Technology, News, etc. I clicked on one of those stories to come to this post. (By the way, Reddit works this way by just putting an “.rss” at the end of the subreddit’s URL. I used that a lot and am ecstatic that Lemmy allow a similar thing!)

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        That’s awesome, thank you for sharing this information! I’ll have to give it a shot and check out ProtoPage, too - that sounds pretty cool. Thanks again :)

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    Been using rss for years now. It’s always been the best way for me to filter into only the news I care about, way Lee political drama. That being said, I use nextcloud news so I can read and sync on multiple devices, as well as listen to podcasts that use rss feeds.

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    I miss Google Reader. Is there anything like that now? Also, can anyone recommend an Android app for RSS?

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      It really blows my mind that it still feels like all alternatives to Google Reader are worse or have less features than Google Reader did. It’s still my most frustrating loss on the internet.

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      I’m using inoreader on iOS but I’m sure they have an app for Android. It’s pretty good and they have a web interface for desktop which was important to me

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        I also use Inoreader (on both Android and iOS). They have an app for both platforms as well as a Web interface. You can also usually access your feed with them in third party RSS apps (as long as the app supports it, of course).

        One odd/annoying thing about using their native Android app on Samsung phones that have high-rate touch interfaces - the app gets finicky about reading long-press touches (like when long pressing on an article to perform a “mark all above read” or “mark all below read” action). It usually takes me multiple attempts to get my touch to register properly with the app to be able to do those actions. (I contacted them years ago about it and they said they were aware of the issue but didn’t know when they’d get around to fixing it. Given how long it’s now been, I doubt they’re ever going to fix it). :(

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      I was a Google Reader user since conception and it also hurt me when it was closed. I jumped through many options at the time and a few years ago I settled with Inoreader. I pay the membership, taking advantage of their discounts offered during times like Black Friday, etc.

      The platform is great, fully customizable and they have many options to create feeds if RSS is not an option.

      I am also an Android user and I use daily and heavily their app, which is really good, on par with the web version.

      I would totally recommend Inoreader then

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      I am using FeedMe on Android, and FreshRSS (RSS Aggregator) in Docker on a Raspberry Pi.

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      The Old Reader is supposed to be a clone that showed up immediately after GR closure. Not sure how good it is now compared to the alternatives.

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    This post got me to try out selfoss but after it being pretty buggy and unable to fetch 50% of the feeds I was interested in, I looked elsewhere. I wanted to install Tiny Tiny RSS but the instructions weren’t my thing. Finally, I settled on FreshRSS and I love it. All the feeds work. The only complaint I have is that, at least it seems, you need to manually add labels to each article and instead just put a feed under a category. I wish I could put feeds under any amount of labels or categories I want. Maybe there’s an extension for it that I have not seen yet.

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      I switched to miniflux months ago and I’m pretty happy with it. Supports categories as well.

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        What I meant was assigning multiple tags (like “tech”, “security”, “foss”, etc) automatically to posts in a feed instead of needing to manually assign them to each article. So if I then want to filter all posts with “security” and “foss” I could choose those two tags to get the filtered results. Can it do that?