Let me be clear: if all you’re going to do is tell people to shut up, and tell people how to behave, you can shut up for all the “effectiveness” you’re having.
Climate change is the greatest existential threat to our time. Literally everything a rational person might be concerned with will be exacerbated by it.
This isn’t about party politics. It’s about kids and grandkids fucking surviving. Biden and most boomers don’t give a fuck because they won’t live long enough to see the effects.
Understand that I agree with the sentiment. Ok? I’ve been watching this burn down and railing about it for decades. No disagreement that we’re killing the planet and we need drastic changes to oil and gas and meat and water protections and so on. So let’s get that straight.
What I’m telling the “Young Progressive Activists” is that they’re wasting their time and helping trump, which is the exact opposite of what they want.
So yeah, I’m telling them how they’re behaving isn’t going to work for them. How could anyone possibly know that? Because, again, as we’ve all said 100 times now - so go ahead and fucking listen to it this time - we see this Every. Time. We’ve seen it for decades. Talk to the Nader people. The Mondale people. Talk to the anti-Reagan anarchists. You think it’s new? How could anyone possibly NOT know that this happens every time? Well, sometimes it’s because they’d have been too young to know it.
It’s not Democratic party politics? Well then that’s exactly the point. You think Biden’s not going far enough. We agree. we thought Obama didn’t go far enough, we thought Clinton didn’t go far enough, and that’s all we’ve had. And those were huge wins. Every other administration has been pro-planetary-death in the extreme. They fucking went to war for oil for fuck’s sake, and those are the people these “Young Progressive Activists” are helping.
So yeah, this behavior is predictable, and it will fail. You don’t wanna know that? You wanna fuck up again and elect another republiQan, that’s what you’ll do then. What a great fucking idea.
Look, we were all stubborn idiots who held to the clear and obvious fact that we were right too. Somehow, despite the fact that we were clearly and obviously right this entire time (I mean, here we are, yeah?) we ended up with this shitshow of a political landscape.
So, what am I saying we shouldn’t challenge the DNC? Oh hell no. “The Democratic firing squad is a circle” is a very old trope. But the DNC isn’t the republiQan party - the DNC can be engaged with and changed by working with it. Go to meetings and make resolutions and so on. Why aren’t “Young Progressive Activists” doing that? Why aren’t they doing the thing that works?
Why. Aren’t they doing. The thing that works.
Whatever reason you decide on isn’t a good one. I know why I didn’t go to meetings and run for things and change people’s legislation that way. Because it was boring. Really - like, really boring. And it took time away from fun things. That’s why. It’s a terrible reason.
And that’s why this is so annoying. This isn’t going to change shit. Yay they’re in the news for twenty seconds. And they’re giving ammunition to trump. Hoo-rah. Best part yet, they’re angry and won’t listen. Fuck. Who isn’t.
If you want a detailed map of political change that works outside one of the two parties, you’re in for an even longer haul and a higher mountain than you can even imagine. That’s what you’re saying. So. Here - good luck. I hope you succeed.
Let me be clear: if all you’re going to do is tell people to shut up, and tell people how to behave, you can shut up for all the “effectiveness” you’re having.
Climate change is the greatest existential threat to our time. Literally everything a rational person might be concerned with will be exacerbated by it.
This isn’t about party politics. It’s about kids and grandkids fucking surviving. Biden and most boomers don’t give a fuck because they won’t live long enough to see the effects.
Understand that I agree with the sentiment. Ok? I’ve been watching this burn down and railing about it for decades. No disagreement that we’re killing the planet and we need drastic changes to oil and gas and meat and water protections and so on. So let’s get that straight.
What I’m telling the “Young Progressive Activists” is that they’re wasting their time and helping trump, which is the exact opposite of what they want.
So yeah, I’m telling them how they’re behaving isn’t going to work for them. How could anyone possibly know that? Because, again, as we’ve all said 100 times now - so go ahead and fucking listen to it this time - we see this Every. Time. We’ve seen it for decades. Talk to the Nader people. The Mondale people. Talk to the anti-Reagan anarchists. You think it’s new? How could anyone possibly NOT know that this happens every time? Well, sometimes it’s because they’d have been too young to know it.
It’s not Democratic party politics? Well then that’s exactly the point. You think Biden’s not going far enough. We agree. we thought Obama didn’t go far enough, we thought Clinton didn’t go far enough, and that’s all we’ve had. And those were huge wins. Every other administration has been pro-planetary-death in the extreme. They fucking went to war for oil for fuck’s sake, and those are the people these “Young Progressive Activists” are helping.
So yeah, this behavior is predictable, and it will fail. You don’t wanna know that? You wanna fuck up again and elect another republiQan, that’s what you’ll do then. What a great fucking idea.
Look, we were all stubborn idiots who held to the clear and obvious fact that we were right too. Somehow, despite the fact that we were clearly and obviously right this entire time (I mean, here we are, yeah?) we ended up with this shitshow of a political landscape.
So, what am I saying we shouldn’t challenge the DNC? Oh hell no. “The Democratic firing squad is a circle” is a very old trope. But the DNC isn’t the republiQan party - the DNC can be engaged with and changed by working with it. Go to meetings and make resolutions and so on. Why aren’t “Young Progressive Activists” doing that? Why aren’t they doing the thing that works?
Why. Aren’t they doing. The thing that works.
Whatever reason you decide on isn’t a good one. I know why I didn’t go to meetings and run for things and change people’s legislation that way. Because it was boring. Really - like, really boring. And it took time away from fun things. That’s why. It’s a terrible reason.
And that’s why this is so annoying. This isn’t going to change shit. Yay they’re in the news for twenty seconds. And they’re giving ammunition to trump. Hoo-rah. Best part yet, they’re angry and won’t listen. Fuck. Who isn’t.
If you want a detailed map of political change that works outside one of the two parties, you’re in for an even longer haul and a higher mountain than you can even imagine. That’s what you’re saying. So. Here - good luck. I hope you succeed.