• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    This was an issue before Israel was attacked.

    As far as I can tell he’s done a lot of the right things, and has been as effective as you can given the political situation. I never understood why so many people seem to have an issue

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      10 months ago

      before Israel was attacked

      I never understood why so many people seem to have an issue

      Having framed the current conflict as having started “when Israel was attacked”, it’s not surprising that you don’t understand why people might have an issue with Biden broadly

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        10 months ago

        I believe that’s the opposite of their point. They’re saying he was loudly on Israel’s side well before the attack.

        It was an attack. There were and are hostages. Whether it was retaliatory can be a topic, but that it was an attack hasn’t been in dispute.

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          10 months ago

          I’m not sure it is exactly ‘opposite’ of their point, but Biden being largely on the side of Israel is the reason a lot of leftists have always been unsupportive of him as a president.

          Like most liberals, he gives a lot of lip-service to progressive causes, but ultimately finds excuses to avoid having to really upset the current hegemony. The reason he is unpopular despite his objectively skilled politic-ing around progressive issues (i think) is because more people are seeing liberalism generally as a failed political project and want actual change rather than lip-service and half-measures.

          His support of Israel is only the most pertinent example of his politics clashing violently with reality.