Yep. They’re starting already. This will not end well and Matt Gaetz should be impeached from office. A sitting member of government should not be calling for violence against said government. They’re getting more bold and dangerous with their statements. By the time Trump loses the next election they’ll be inciting them to war.
Genuinely, don’t bank on them losing. We can’t afford to underestimate the mass appeal of strongman rhetoric. It’s completely fucked. But this exact approach has worked as a precursor to a lot of authoritarian regimes.
I can’t believe how many people I’m seeing who automatically assume that it’s going to be an auto-lose for the right in the upcoming election. Do they not remember how everyone had this exact sentiment in 2015? We can’t let ourselves fall any further by losing again to someone we thought couldn’t win.
We should compare against the 2020 election, not 2016.
Have voters who supported Biden in 2020 switched to supporting Trump in 2024? I think not. If anything, I think recent news may have convinced a few Trump supporters to switch sides (potentially to a third party, which is still a win for Biden).
Still, it’s important that people actually get out and vote, because the margins are slim in a few important states. PA and GA come to mind.
It’s not so much that people will switch sides, it’s that they won’t vote at all. I know so many people who thought voting in 2016 was worthless because Trump was never going to win. Anyone who views voting as a hassle is a lot less likely to do it if they think that the results are guaranteed, so we need to be mindful that we thought that exact same thing in 2016, which caused us to get the worst president ever, and I personally believe we only won 2020 not because people switched sides, but because so many people who never bothered to vote before finally went out and did it to stop Trump.
This will not end well
Especially not with the FBI still not aligning itself fully with democracy.
The DOJ’s been trying to play both sides too
In the weeks before Jan. 6, Trump supporters boasted publicly that they had submitted fake electors on his behalf, but the Justice Department declined to investigate the matter in February 2021, The Post found. The department did not actively probe the effort for nearly a year, and the FBI did not open an investigation of the electors scheme until April 2022, about 15 months after the attack.
The Justice Department’s painstaking approach to investigating Trump can be traced to Garland’s desire to turn the page from missteps, bruising attacks and allegations of partisanship in the department’s recent investigations of both Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.
Inside Justice, however, some lawyers have complained that the attorney general’s determination to steer clear of any claims of political motive has chilled efforts to investigate the former president. “You couldn’t use the T word,” said one former Justice official briefed on prosecutors’ discussions.
I can’t believe people are still trying to defend Garland. That coward should be out doing a job he has the stomach for, like, say, tailoring.
I have never defended him. I’m ashamed of the current DOJ and AG. The state attorneys had way more balls than Garland ever did. And the fact that he’ll go after Hunter Biden (for barely anything) to not appear “political” when half our government is Republican seditionists is laughable.
They’re getting bold because nothing happens to them.
Matt Gaetz should be impeached from office
He should also be in prison for sex trafficking of minors, but I guess that’s a different discussion.
He’s wealthy and politically connected. Not gonna happen. My country is screwed.
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This is what I don’t get. What’s the end game here? Why are people so hell bent on Trump winning? Do these politicians not see the ship sinking? What possible motivation could be keeping these people loyal to him? I’m not talking about the regular constituents but the other republican officials in office? What the hell do they stand to gain here?
Because they are part of a cult that has infiltrated government for decades to turn it into a christofascist state and they’re at their endgame.
It’s mass delusion. They’re operating primarily on lies and fantasy instead of any reality.
In other words, trying to apply logical reasoning to their perspective is not going to work.
They’re at the point of being scooby doo villains, all that’s left is for them to say, “And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling leftists” as they’re being arrested for treason.
Because the only other option, losing, means that they’re losers and they can’t accept that. It’s not any more complicated than that.
He who rides the tiger can never dismount.
Because they have made a deal with the devil and throwing in the towel means payment comes due. Thanks to the southern strategy Republicans hitched their proverbial wagon to the Christian extremists (who make up the bulk of the racists the southern strategy is predicated on). Decades of propaganda by the likes of Fox “News”, Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck has left their party deeply mired with conspiracy theorists and people with only a tenuous grasp of reality, and an equal number of grifters and con artists preying on those same vulnerable populations. These people are the backbone of Trumps support and they have for various reasons completely embraced him in some cases even as a literal messiah. The Republican party is already struggling to attract enough voters to continue to win elections without resorting to voter fraud, they literally can not afford to give up a single voter, and turning against Trump at this point would shatter their party.
Trump is an existential threat to the Republican party, but one that perversely they can’t publicly attack without inciting the very thing that would destroy them. Like Frakenstein they’ve created a monster, and now it has turned on them. They’re frantically trying to keep its ire focused anywhere but on themselves and just hoping it does more damage to their opponents than it does to them before they can think up some way to contain or kill it.
They want a race war. They want concentration camps and mass killings of anyone they deem a liberal. Reinstate slavery and to hurt a lot of people. That’s their in game. It’s a playbook written on writing a tidal wave of hate and emotions.
They want freaking Gilead. I used to think that was just wild hyperbole, but good god are these right wing loonies scary.
Terrorists
“And so, to all my friends here in Iowa, when you see them come for this man, know that they are coming for our movement and they are coming for all of us.”
Not even pretending not to be fascist. Straight out of the playbook.
matt gaetz sold children into sex slavery
I thought he bought them?
Fascist shit.
We finally agree on something. History has shown that pacifism cannot defeat an infestation of conservatism. It must be cured by force.
Also, isn’t Matt Gaetz a child molester? Why is he still allowed to walk free and give statements to the press?
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What makes you think vigilantilism is a problem with the extreme left?
Just as an example off the top of my head, the murder of Ahmaud Arbery was done by right-wing looneys and defended by the far-right as morally good vigilantilism, leading to the repeal of Georgia’s citizens arrest laws (i.e., their laws for legal vigilantilism).
Which is why they are not taken seriously by anyone else on the political spectrum.
Oh no, the pedophiles don’t take us seriously, how sad.
This isn’t hard to understand at all. Unless you want to throw out the laws that define our society and perscribe to vigilante justice based on feelings, instead of evidence and juries.
A jury of his peers found Trump guilty of being a rapist, but I have yet to see a single “law and order!!! we have to rely on evidence and juries!!!” Trump follower acknowledge that.
The eXtReMe LeFt!
Fucking piece of shit.
No, I think he prefers teenagers…
Confirmed pedo, just like his buddy Trump.
I’m sure he has said similar things while committing child rape.
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
Chairman Mao and republicans in 2023.
If the majority of people used force to get what they wanted, it would not be any of the shit that the GOP wanted because they are a minority. The only thing protecting them is that society has accepted to change things through voting instead of violence. Fuck with that at your own peril, dumbass.
It’s a little scary that this environment (social media) leads so many to believe that, but it’s just not reality. At best conservative ideology is at parity with liberal ideology in the US. At worst, it’s actually a slight majority and has been on the rise since 2020. I’d rather we avoid Civil War 2.0 at the risk of actually losing this time.
This is wrong. Public opinion polls on abortion, LGBT rights, climate change, racism, etc. all show healthy majorities in opposition to the Republican party’s policies. The word “liberal” doesn’t do well because of an aggressive multi-decade marketing campaign trashing it, but liberal values are well supported.
Also the voting rights ast was trashed in 2013
You’re forgetting demographics. The elderly is primarily republican, whereas the 40 and under crowd leans heavily democratic.
Most people won’t fight unless the battle is outside their door anyway, and the people who want war would probably need to cross state lines to accomplish anything, in which case they would be going up against the national guard and not just a bunch of hippies in hatchbacks.
Whoever starts the war, should it be started, will lose it, 100%. It won’t even be a contest.
This has been the line for decades, yet here we are with a large conservative population
Either the age split is wrong, or people become more conservative as they age, repopulating the older demo still voting conservative
The age split is just wrong. The left vastly underestimates those motherfuckers to make themselves feel better, and they do it at their own peril.
I’d rather we avoid Civil War 2.0 at the risk of actually losing this time.
While I appreciate the sentiment, I would rather live in a fractured nation than a fascist one. Those who would sacrifice liberty for the sake of security deserve neither.
Those who would sacrifice liberty for the sake of security deserve neither.
Then burn down the USA. The Constitution spells out the ways you sacrifice freedom for security. Just like it also regulates commerce. There has never been a truly “free market” either.
Those dumbass idioms don’t mean anything. They are used to polarize people like you.
What? That doesn’t make any sense
Traitors gonna trait
Stochastic terrorism
Sedition
Can anyone remind me of Matt Gaetz’s stance on BLM protests? Judging by this affirmation he must’ve loved them right?
Conservatives are fucking cowards. What the hell are they going to do, get arrested on us?
So when antifa uses “violence” its bad, right
Why isn’t the FBI or the Secret Service paying this clown a visit?
How are they openly trying to incite violence without repercussions?
