• Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    What is the theory of the case on how he loses the GOP primary? He’s polling higher than the rest of the field combined. At this time, unless he dies before the election, I don’t see how he doesn’t end up as the Republican nominee.

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      I feel like a lot of people would still insist on voting for him even if he was dead. Assuming of course that they believe the “liberal media fake news” that he’s dead.

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        Honestly a dead Trump presidency would be a net positive to the world compared to a alive Trump presidency. Do a Weekend at Bernie’s I don’t care.

        Every single day of Trump Presidency 2016-2020 was “What is this moron going to do today?” And just dominating the news. We are still feeling ripple effects of all the BS he rolled back.

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        Trump spoiling the 2024 election for the Republicans would be like a wet dream come true for me.

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      Trump runs into a issue with the Fourteenth Amendment where states can block him from the ballot. Only a 2/3 vote in Congress can prevent that.

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        Ok, aside from bad fanfic what is the way he’s not the nominee and on the ballot in all 51 electoral jurisdictions?

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              Isn’t the opposite true though as well? Can’t red states just make up reasons to remove biden if a conviction isn’t required?

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                Sure, if they could identify an instance in which he “engaged in insurrection or rebellion […], or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”. Biden has never committed such an offense, so in order for red states to attempt this they’d have to fabricate facts and have a sufficient number of state officials go along with it, essentially The Big Lie 2.0.

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                It is insurrection specific so states would have the burden of proving (if they cared about proof) Biden was engaged with an insurrection.

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            I mean when even the federalist society are penning their opinions on various publications supporting such a position…

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          Legally he can not be on the ballot in any of the 51 electoral jurisdictions per the United States Consitution.

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        It doesn’t. I get the appeal, but he is not charged with anything that falls under the clause nor is he likely to be charged with such. Historical and legal precedent requires a finding in law of such violation for the clause to be applicable. It’s wishcasting.

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        o person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

        Emphasized the bold part because I don’t quite understand why we would want that to even be an option.

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          I imagine the thinking is that if a rebellion has 2/3 support in both houses of Congress, it was probably popular enough to not be disqualifying.