Let me preface by saying, I would love to hear counter points and am fully open to the fact that I could be wrong and totally out of touch. I just want to have some dialogue around something thatā€™s been bothering me in the fediverse.

More and more often I keep hearing people refer to ā€œnormiesā€. I think by referring to other people as ā€œnormiesā€, whether you intend to or not, you inadvertently gatekeep and create an exclusive environment rather than an inclusive one in the fediverse.

If I was not that familiar with the fediverse and decided to check it out and the first thing I read was a comment about ā€œnormiesā€, I would quite honestly be very put off. It totally has a negative connotation and doesnā€™t even encapsulate any one group. I just read a comment about someone grouping a racist uncle and funny friend into the same category of normie because they arenā€™t up to date on the fediverse or super tech savvy or whatever.

I donā€™t want to see any Meta bs in the fediverse. I barely want to see half of the stuff from Reddit in the fediverse. I donā€™t want to see the same echo chamber I do everywhere else.

I do want to see more users and more perspectives and a larger user base though. I want to see kindness and compassion. I want to talk to people about topics they are interested in. I want to have relevant discussions without it dissolving into some commentary on some unrelated hot topic thing.

I think calling people normies creates a more toxic, exclusive place which I personally came here to avoid.

Just my two cents! I know for most people using the term it isnā€™t meant to be malicious, but I think it comes off that way.

Love to hear all of your thoughts.

  • zeppo@lemmy.world
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    To me it means ā€œnot a computer dorkā€. I always interpreted it as somewhat self-deprecating.

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    nah, youā€™re right

    the term always gives me images of channer culture; like it reminds me when the internet as a whole thought that 4chan and its ilk were cool and elite for being shitty for ā€œlulzā€

    it needs to be retired

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    A slur always tells you more about the person who uses it than about the person theyā€™re referring to.

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        if terf isnā€™t a slur, Normie isnā€™t either. people seem to get irrationally upset about the word normal. normal is a well defined word, the same way cis is but it seems one group is fine with one whilst the other isnā€™t.

        instead of focusing on labels and how much they upset you (I donā€™t mean who I am replying to), focus on understanding and respecting peopleā€™s differences, regardless of terminology.

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    I just see the term to mean the opposite of specialist, or someone who is passionate about the topic.

    In internet terms, it generally means not a geek.

    Itā€™s a good distinction, because for geeks, internet is something inherently interesting on a technological and philosophical level. For, well, normies, itā€™s just an appliance they donā€™t need to know much about.

    Similarly if you go to a car show but donā€™t really know shit about cars other than they have 4 wheels, youā€™re a normie in that environment. Your requirements on what a car should be like, are fundamentally different from someone who likes to tweak and tinker.

    I wish the term could just mean that without any negative connotations, because I donā€™t see anything wrong with that distinction.

    Ed/add: Nobody can know everything about every topic, so everyone is a normie in some category. Usually without realising it. So thatā€™s just it. Not necessarily an insult, and doesnā€™t even make much sense as one, I think.