A 12 yo that I know scanned his face. It recognized it as an adult and now he can’t talk with his friends, only adults…
Discord was always an overhyped crap.
So what alternative to Discord are we switching to? I’m geniunely asking because my server is an 18+ Roleplay Server and members have been asking what we’re moving to… And we don’t really have an answer for them.
I’ve been encouraging everyone to add me on Telegram so we can keep in touch, but Telegram doesn’t allow it in the ToS for you make 18+ Only Groups
Stoat (formerly revolt) would be my vote. It’s basically an open source clone of Discord. It might not have every feature you want, but the basics are all there, and the UI is pretty much indistinguishable so even non-techie friends won’t mind the switch.
Does it have screen share yet?
XMPP, IRC, Matrix or Stoat.
Microsoft Teams
I appreciate your sense of humor.
Teamspeak still exists
Mumble is better though
Ewww. Discord? More like Discard
I can’t wait for people to get back to IRC!
Get back? I never left.
Discord always felt way overbuilt to me for a text/voice chat and screen sharing app. Same problem with Teams and others; they aren’t forums, stop trying to make them replace forums.
Good. Maybe we can stop using a transient digital bathroom wall as a primary system of information distribution.
British people right now :
Personally I’m fine with the restrictions. I’m not in any age restricted servers and I don’t use the Stage feature. I already have pms restricted to mutual servers. If they want to “assume I’m 13” let them. If I can get on voice with my D&D group idgaf.
No I’m not trusting them with my info, or RL identity, but it sounds like they’re not booting people off the service for not providing it.
Its not restrictions that is the issue but the attempt to normalize handing out ID and face scans. It would have been more acceptable for them to flat out disallow restricted content than moving towards normalizing this type of entrustment of sensitive data.
I wonder if they’ll take into account that, had I signed up at (the youngest possible age of) 13, the age of my account would then make me 21. I suppose they can’t really sell that inferred data…
The article says they may check metadata to verify users as well, so as far as I can tell, they will take that into account.
Did they edit the article, or am I maybe just blind? I don’t see Metadata being mentioned anywhere in the article or in the original Discord announcement. I even did a ctrl+f on meta, and nothing came up.
Oh dang no this article didn’t, the one from the Verge mentioned it: https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out
Sorry I read 2-3 articles about this and mixed up which ones mentioned what.
Ah, thanks a lot for the link! I appreciate it. They really should put that information into their official announcement as well.
You could have lied then too and not been 13 at the time
I’m actually seven right now. 👶
Impressive online skills for a second grader
Cool.
The restrictions won’t change what little I use it for, but it might piss off some of my friends who are deep in the discord rabbit hole.
I would love to have an alternative to which some of the communities I am currently in can migrate. Not easy to find anything that is like Discord.
Zulip is good.
I’ve been told to try Stoat a lot today, but the Discord news seems to have hugged their signup system to death.
Well thats good and bad at the same time. I will try today as well. Maybe Stoat can get a critical number of users going to get this really started.
I feel like a modern IRC client would cover it wouldn’t it? What am I missing?
My friends tell me it’s screen share that they want and why Mumble etc. won’t cut it.
Screen share, specifically with low latency, is a huge feature thats really widely used. Everything from watching videos together, to playing RPGs via the shared screen, to coaching esports games. When I tried Matrix before (like a year ago) the multi-second latency on screen sharing was what made me give up on it.
Slack is basically the same thing as a platform
Slack requires payment for messages to persist over 90 days. We used to use Slack for an organization I’m part of. We moved to Discord when that was introduced which is kinda funny.
Slack needs payment to have group calls. Also it would be nice to move something open and ideally something self-hosted.
Well don’t downvote the comment that answered your question. If you’re looking for something that’s exactly exactly exactly Z, then the answer will only ever be Z
Believe it or not. I did not downvote you. Seems crazy but there are other people here and promoting Slack seems to be a not so popular opinion.
You’re getting downvoted because your answer was bad. Slack isn’t “not exactly like discord”, slack is not even remotely close to a replacement for discord unless you are only considering text based lobbies. Slack is built around enterprise IM as a paid service, discord is built around gaming voice chat as a free service.
If someone says that they want to replace their Tesla and you offer a golf cart to them while saying, “they’re both electric, so same difference”, don’t be surprised by others finding that unhelpful.
matrix maybe?
Matrix is no where near the level of discord, if all you need is a chat app than ya sure, simplex or Matrix work great. If you want feature parity… Definitely not either of those two, as they are just glorified sms/group text apps.
Plus there’s the fact that Matrix is heavily user unfriendly
Matrix is a possibility but its sometimes a bit of a hard sell to people.
Matrix IS NOT user friendly nor is it for breakfast
I’ve used Matrix and it’s… a bit unwieldy to say the least.
Matrix is not going to catch on. It is too intense for the average person. My friend didn’t want to bother with all the security features and couldn’t sign in without issue constantly.
That’s only really a problem if it’s end to end encrypted right?
But…it is.
Last I remember using it. it was a room setting or something. I don’t remember exactly, but it was always as pain with the friends I had it toggled on with, but otherwise fine.
Yeah but it’s on by default. And it’s not clear at all that you can turn it off or how.
yeah, was going to say I think Matrix is the reasonable alternative
I dont know if Stoat (ex Revolt) is as good but it seems to be the most direct competitor
Yeah looks like it. Thanks. Maybe I take a closer look at that one.
If they did it right they would grandfather older accounts And start with new(er) accounts. But we know that is not the goal.
Yeah my account is 9 years old, doesn’t make sense unless I was 8 when I made the account.
Discord age-verification bot: “Your account is nine years old, and nine-year-olds are too young to use Discord. Terminating account.”
You joke but I saw so many complaints when Facebook and Twitter started blocking 13 and younger from people who had ten year old accounts, created when they were under 13, getting banned, despite currently not being underaged. Because the verification was built terribly.
The whole internet is adult-by-default, so why are we doing any sort of age verification?
Because parents do not want to deal with monitoring or taking care of their children. You can limit apps etc on PCs and phones easily with parental controls and no they are not perfect but parents are lazy or too incompetent to figure it out.
Sounds like a lack of education. The focus should be there, not age verification.
You are not wrong, but then a large portion of the US glorifies being stupid and sees any sort of education effort as some sort of freedom destroying conspiracy.
Yep, huge portion. Sucks.
The problem is that there isn’t really anywhere to Exodus to. I already know people here on Lemmy are going to say Matrix but that’s just not an option. It’s trash, the protocol was designed by idiot neck beards that have never heard the term UX. Pretty much everything was done in a way that while technically speaking is efficient makes it unbelievably tedious to actually use and in some cases just outright annoying ensuring that users will never want to use it. Most recent example is forcing device verification, it is technically correct, it is better from a security standpoint it is better from a verifiability standpoint. But for the average user who could not give less of a shit about that it is nothing more than something that pisses them off and annoys them every single time they open the application because despite the fact that they should be remembering at least in my testing it almost never does and I have to put in my stupid key every single God damn time especially if I’m using it in the browser.
Teamspeakers trying to rebuild itself to be more Discord like but it’s still in early beta and not at all ready for it so that’s not an option, and everything else is pretty much either just as shit or just as likely to implement this tomorrow as Discord
Matrix is not trash, you are just not understanding it’s intended application. This ain’t it. It’s intended for commercial use. Where security is a high priority.
Someone should really let the people over at matrix.org know that, the messaging is very clearly aimed at normal users.
It’s hard to get away from consolidation. I see things like Stoat getting popular, though it looks like development slowed down?
Teamspeak works fine, most use Discord as a voice and quick text app rather than a social network anyway. And honestly the whole “forum” aspect of Discord needs to rot anyway, perhaps this would stop companies relying on Discord as their news and support outlet, because fuck that.
Ohgod its so annoying when I find some software I want to download and its only available to download from their Discord. Like what happened to having a damn website.
Yep. If some software requires Discord for support and updates, I simply find other software.
Hoping discord pulls a windows and enshitifies so completely that people finally abandon it
Except trans children. Don’t think of them. Apparently.
Fine by me.
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They do this shit, and I’ll not using their shit. Simple as.
I already dumped them. No one is gonna scan me.
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I think they mean that they simply won’t Id themselves / stop using the platform.
