• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    8 months ago

    Supporting Biden isn’t supporting genocide, that’s a false argument.

    Biden is supporting Israel because that’s where the PAC money is and poor college students can’t make up that difference.

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      8 months ago

      Biden is supporting Netanyahu’s genocide. Should he continue because gaslighting the poor hasn’t worked?

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        8 months ago

        He isn’t supporting genocide, he’s supporting Israel, just like every other President since the start, and Bibi is misaporopriating that support.

        You wouldn’t say Reagan or Clinton supported war crimes when Israel illegally attacked Lebanon during their administrations. Same deal here.

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          He isn’t supporting genocide

          He’s selling them weapons that he knows will be used for genocide, with no strings attached. He’s running interference for Netanyahu at the UN.

          That looks like support from where I’m sitting.

          just like every other President since the start, and Bibi is misaporopriating that support.

          “That’s the way we’ve always done it” is a lousy justification, since the way we’ve always done it got us here, with the US selling weapons for genocide.

          You wouldn’t say Reagan or Clinton supported war crimes when Israel illegally attacked Lebanon during their administrations. Same deal here.

          Didn’t Reagan threaten to withhold weapons when Israel illegally attacked Lebanon?

          In any event, the article’s about protests from a generation that weren’t even alive for Reagan and were children during Clinton’s administration.

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      Ah. It’s okay if it’s blood money. Cause only Biden and his Israel money can be our option. So. Fucking. Stupid.

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        8 months ago

        They really don’t care where the money comes from so long as they get it. That’s kind of the whole point.

        I love linking to this clip from Bulworth, it never gets old, more people should watch that flick:

        https://youtu.be/-Cg7Z2eZmcM

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          That is not the society I would prefer to live in. That being said. That looks like a movie worth watching lol

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      Man, the absolutist crowd is out in force today.

      • I don’t “support” Biden, but there is a 100% chance I will be voting for him in November, simply due to the vagaries of the American electoral system.
      • not voting for Biden is leaning in to the electoral system being intentionally skewed to the right through various sketchy tactics
      • not combating that rightward skew will likely lead to Trump winning the election
      • trump winning the election will likely lead to Trump doing something absolutely heinous in naked support of Israel’s genocidal actions, like carpet bombing parts of Gaza with a few squadrons of B-52s like it was the Vietnam War (amongst a shitload of other terrible things both related to Israel and not)

      As always, context kinda fucking matters a lot.

      Edit: all that said: I’m pretty sure the downvotes are due to how dismissive you are being of “poor college students”

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      8 months ago

      We finally agree on something. I still don’t know why you allow so much disinformation and false accusations in your community, but at least we can agree on this.

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        8 months ago

        I try to let up and down votes do their job.

        Bad opinions aren’t necessarily misinformation.

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          It’s not the opinions that are the problem. We all should be free to speak them. It’s the bullshit propaganda and flat-out accusations that are. I’ve been accused time after time of supporting genocide, simply for trying to explain nuance… and none of you remove said accusations, yet time after time, you remove the comments of people that call out the bullshit.

          I’ve even had one of the mods here bait me for two days tiptoeing around the issue until I just gave up trying.

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            I’ve been accused time after time of supporting genocide, simply for trying to explain nuance…

            What nuance is to be found regarding genocide? There is no justification that makes support for genocide acceptable.

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              Okay… lol. For the LAST time.

              Biden is not committing genocide. Period. End of fucking story. Now stop following me around.

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                Biden is not committing genocide.

                This is true. He’s supporting genocide, not committing it. That’s still morally reprehensible.

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                    He’s not even supporting it.

                    He’s selling them weapons that he knows will be used for genocide. That’s support for genocide.

                    I mean, you can at least admit that Netanyahu is committing genocide, right?