The 14th Amendment to the Constitution bans anyone who ā€œengaged in insurrection or rebellion againstā€ the U.S. from holding office.

A Florida lawyer is suing Donald Trump in an attempt to disqualify his current run for president. Lawrence A. Caplanā€™s Thursday lawsuit claims that the ex-presidentā€™s involvement in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot would make him ineligible to run again, thanks to the Constitutionā€™s 14th Amendmentā€”a Civil War-era addition aimed at preventing those who ā€œengaged in insurrection or rebellion againstā€ the U.S. from holding office. ā€œNow given that the facts seem to be crystal clear that Trump was involved to some extent in the insurrection that took place on January 6th, the sole remaining question is whether American jurists who swear an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution upon their entry to the bench, will choose to follow the letter of the Constitution in this case,ā€ the lawsuit says, also citing Trumpā€™s alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia. Legal experts say itā€™s an uphill battle to argue in court, since the amendment has hardly been exercised in modern history. ā€œRealistically, itā€™s not a Hail Mary, but itā€™s just tossing the ball up and hoping it lands in the right place,ā€ Charles Zelden, a professor of history and legal studies at Nova Southeastern University, told the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

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  • constantokra@lemmy.one
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    The thing is, itā€™s pretty clear to basically everyone else. Weā€™re supposee to have confidence in the people who interpret these things for us, but thatā€™s pretty clearly gone too. Iā€™m pretty frightened about where weā€™re headed because at some point people will get fed up that no one is getting real consequences and start handing them out themselves.

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        Itā€™s explained in great detail in the federalist papers.

        ā€œLittle more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed and equippedā€

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        The thing that isnā€™t clear to everyone all at once is which people are getting away with heinous things with zero consequences. What is clear is that a certain level of society has no consequences. Eventually one side or the other will get fed up and things will get really bad. Whether theyā€™re going after the actual problems is another thing entirely, and the odds are probably better that theyā€™ll be going after the wrong people.

        Either way, I see the lack of consequences as the ultimate fuse in this powder keg. One of the main functions of government is to systematize and standardize consequences for unacceptable behavior, and we all agree to abide by rules we donā€™t necessarily agree to so that at least itā€™s somewhat consistently applied. In theory. But if government refuses to even give the appearance of doing that, people will take it into their own hands. Human nature has been the way it is way longer than our oldest institutions.

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      Well, itā€™s clear to everyone who isnā€™t a Trumper, but you need to remember that the law doesnā€™t always follow ā€œitā€™s clear to everyone.ā€ Due to various reasons, that law can hinge on technicalities and tests. So while we might agree that Trump engaged in insurrection, proving that he engaged in insurrection in court would be more difficult. Not impossible, mind you, but more difficult. And depending on the judge and evidence, Trump could be found, via a technicality, to have not engaged in insurrection as far as the law goes.

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        I donā€™t disagree. I think the real problem us that weā€™re supposed to trust the impartiality of the people making those technical legal determinations. Itā€™s become obvious thatā€™s a total fiction.