ā€œThe guy is not a democrat with a small d,ā€ the president told CNNā€™s Erin Burnett.

PresidentĀ Joe Biden said in an interview Wednesday he is all but certainĀ Donald Trump, his predecessor and presumptive 2024 rival, will reject the results of the November election and called Trump ā€œdangerousā€ for the nation.

ā€œThe guy is not a democrat with a small d,ā€ Biden toldĀ CNNā€™s Erin Burnett during a visit to Wisconsin this week.

ā€œHow many court cases do they have, Supreme Court cases? Theyā€™ve all said this is a totally legitimate election. ā€¦ HeĀ mayĀ not accept the outcome of the election? I promise you he wonā€™t. Which is dangerous.ā€

The president went on to say other world leaders had expressed to him their fear of a second Trump presidency and pointed to Trumpā€™s pledge to prosecute his political opponents if he enters the Oval Office once more.

  • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    Ā·
    7 months ago

    Your suggestion to fix this failure of a system is literally ā€œdo nothingā€. Please try to recognise that: You are advocating for fighting the status quo by doing nothing.

    It will not work. If you want change you need to take action. Not voting is the exact opposite of attempting to change things. Use the influence you have to push for a change in the right direction.

    • retrospectology@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      Ā·
      7 months ago

      Who said do nothing? Iā€™m saying your suggestion of continually rewarding corporate dems with power has failed.

      If your political strategy has brought us to the point where weā€™re literally condoning genocide with our vote then itā€™s a failure. You understand that, right? If the Chosen One the Dem establishment has forced on us is nevk and neck with Donald Trump then that establishment is a failure and continuing to reward them with power for these pied piper bullshit strategies is not going to lead to progress.

      Theyā€™ve been doing it for forty years and all weā€™ve gotten for it is a tightening noose around our freedoms as they jerk off to corporate lobby money and insider trading, playing grab ass with fascists.

      Thatā€™s your ā€œprogressā€.

      • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        Ā·
        7 months ago

        And your solution to the problem is literally not vote, which is doing exactly nothing. I have a really hard time seeing how you can expect yourself actively not influencing the system to somehow influence the system.

        • retrospectology@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          Ā·
          7 months ago

          Itā€™s literally the only way you can can communicate that you will not play the game theyā€™ve rigged. And yes, that has an influence whether you are willing to admit it or not.

          Because hereā€™s whatā€™s going to happen if Biden gets his next term; Democrats will take that as a signal that they can be complicit in literal genocide and voters will still vote for them as long as they keep propping up worse options on the otherside. And so they will keep propping up a worse option and acting with complete disregard to their base.

          You are not going to ā€œturn things aroundā€ at some point in the vague future, there is not going to be ā€œslow, generational progressā€, thereā€™s going to continue to be a choice between Fascist and Fascist Lite because Fascist Lite understands they do not need to change anything about how theyā€™re doing things in order to win elections.

          Is it a terrible and costly choice to call the Dems on their game of chicken? Yup. But thatā€™s where your politics have put us. Itā€™s degraded our democracy to the point that our only remaining choice to stop the vehicle from going off a cliff is to veer it into a tree.

          We couldā€™ve hit the brakes earlier, there were plenty of opportunities and warning signs where the road was going, but people like you kept saying ā€œoh no, pressing the brakes isnā€™t viable, the corporate media told me that brakes are extremist. Just keep going this next mile and then we can slow down a little after. Just go around this one last bend and itā€™ll turn into a U-turn.ā€

          Your politics donā€™t work and the threats and condescension have simply lost the effect, I cannot emphasize this enough; itā€™s not a viable political tactic any longer. If you think itā€™s that important that Biden win then you need to be doing everything you can to influence him to radically change his behavior, not sitting here trying to convince other people to deny what they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and play make-believe with you that ā€œjust a little genocideā€ is ok for Democrats to support. Enough of the trolley problem bullshit, no one is buying it.

          • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            Ā·
            7 months ago

            I never said the current system is great: But given the choice between driving off a cliff and veering into a tree, your response seems to be to not tough the wheel and letting whatever happens happen.

            You seem to be ignoring the fact that someone will win the upcoming election. By not voting, youā€™re leaving it up to everyone else to choose.

            By all means: Something needs to be done to fix the broken system, but saying that we should have pumped the brakes long ago, and then doing nothing about the most immediate issue - who the next president will be - doesnā€™t help. We need to ensure that we get some president that doesnā€™t persecute political opponents if we want to have the option of electing an actually good president in the future.

            By all means: Start or join a movement to get better candidates in the future, vote for other candidates in local elections and primaries to lift them up. The fight youā€™re talking about has to be fought long before the final two candidates are locked into the ballot, and complaining that itā€™s lost wonā€™t effect who wins in the end.