Overdiagnosis is not a problem, but misdiagnosis may be as people are driven into the private sector by long waits, and sadly, missed diagnoses remain common —Tamsin Ford
Experts are warning that far from being over-diagnosed, people with ADHD are waiting too long for assessment, support and treatment.
Do we ever stop and think that the negative consequences are from our newly constructed hyper engagement focused society?
And maybe we are blaming the individuals for failing to live up to an impossible standard of productivity at the behest of our abusers?
It’s the other way around. ADHD gives people an evolutionary advantage in crisis situations. Surviving through war, famine, and all the worst situations that humanity has survived through.
ADHD isn’t incompatible with modern life because it got too hard. It’s incompatible with modern life because it got too easy.
Hmm. Yeah, we as a society want people who can at tedium repeat a basic task and then not interact with the world much more than that or what is sold to them.
So I wouldn’t say easy as much as easy as it is very difficult for those with it but simplified. And the toys we have created to play with to distract them/us from how basic our life is are incredibly dangerously good at mimicking progress.
That’s such a pessimistic way of looking at it. All the efforts of humanity up until this point have gone towards sparing us from the horrors of what used to be the human condition. Generations and generations of toil and sacrifice so we could be bored at work instead of dying from the plague.
I struggle with ADHD because I am one of the luckiest human beings born so far.
Meh, just cause someone tried to do something nice for us doesnt mean the outcome actually was. We can keep adjusting and trying find what actually is good for people as a whole instead of free of effort.
I don’t know but I don’t think its bad to have the opinion of the recipient as well, and its not like every day was a horror for them anymore than it is for ours. It ebbs and flows but if we made a wrong turn we can do our part to correct it.
To a horrifying degree, work does define the human experience. Removing it isn’t lucky but a part of who we are being removed and I the name of a nameless idea’s of perfection. And I think its realism not pessimism to recognize that.
This is just not accurate.
Infant mortality rate before the industrial revolution was like 30%. Something like 50% of children didn’t survive to their fifth birthday. But you think life was about as good then as it is today? I mean people still have to work for a living, so I guess it’s all a wash?
I’m not suggesting that we can’t still improve. I’m just pointing out that you don’t seem to have the proper context for this stance you’ve taken.
If you want to completely fucking ignore science and be an ingorant fuck, then yes, you can say those things.
Let’s be clear about this shit.
Because of my undiagnosed ADHD, when I failed fourth grade and the school board tried to get my parents to sign custody of me over to the state to be put in an institution until the STATE decided to release me, when my parents said “Fuck no”, they tried to put me in a private school, but there wasn’t one close enough, so I got to be homeschooled. Which went poorly with my undiagnosed ADHD.
I managed to get to 2nd and 3rd college year level in all subjects except math (where I was at 11.5th grade level) by the time we were in the middle of the tenth grade school year, because I was “blessed” by high IQ - which is fucking useless, except it measures how quickly you can learn, and I managed to pick up enough even with all the struggles.
I got into college, but I failed - three attempts at it.
I had trouble keeping jobs, thanks to my ADHD.
I finally got my ADHD diagnosis at age 30. The therapist who diagnosed me said I was the most severe case he’d ever seen.
It was after that that I tried college a third time, but thanks to IRS stupidity - long story - we got screwed and I lost my scholarships because we couldn’t prove we didn’t owe $14k to the IRS that we didn’t owe.
Meanwhile, I still had trouble keeping jobs, so I had no healthcare. So when I was diagnosed with diabetes, they put me on metformin. I didn’t get any education. I knew to cut out sugar but I didn’t understand carbs. And what do you live on when you’re poor? Carbs. So the metformin alone did hardly anything.
So I lived for ten years with unmanaged diabetes because the metformin was all I could apparently afford. Thanks to the US healthcare system and to my ADHD.
I had a saddle pulmonary embolism and nearly died, and that’s what enabled me to convince my wife to let me look for work nationally. We ended up in Virginia from Florida and I have insurance and have my diabetes under control, but the damage was done. I’ve had six heart attacks and my kidneys failed so I’m now on dialysis. I also had to have a below-knee amputation, so I’m a wheelchair user on top of that because with the fucking anemia I couldn’t walk, so I’ve lost that ability.
Thanks to all of that, I’m 50 and I’m maybe going to see 60 if I’m lucky, but probably not.
Thanks in large part to my ADHD. I strugle every single fucking day with my ADHD and its effects.
So pardon me if I feel a little rage when you suggest that perhaps modern day life is “causing” this shit, because fuck anyone who says that. I’m sick of hearing people deny ADHD. I’m sick of people saying “we ALL are a LITTLE ADHD”. NO YOU ARE FUCKING NOT AND HOW CAN I TELL? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FUCKING IMPACT YOUR LIFE TO THE SAME DEGREE IT DOES THOSE OF US WITH ADHD. SO HOW ABOUT SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THINGS YOU DON’T KNOW ANY FUCKING THING ABOUT AND STOP DENYING THE SHIT I HAVE DEALT WITH ALL OF MY FUCKING LIFE.
So there. You shitty people want to downvote something? Go ahead and downvote that. Feel better about yourselves, but you can also fuck off and be wrong.
STOP FUCKING TRYING TO DENY ADHD. LOOK AT THE GODDAMN FUCKING SCIENCE. OR SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FUCK OFF.
I don’t understand why you are being hostile…
Nowhere did they say that ADHD is a made-up condition. What I got from the comment was that a lot of the difficulties with ADHD are due to societal expectations and norms rather than inherent to ADHD itself. Which I’m not saying I agree with or disagree with (it’s probably a mixture of both).
I get being upset at people denying ADHD, especially if it’s something you suffer from and have had negative experiences in your life, but that’s just not what is happening here. I was recently diagnosed with BPD by my psychiatrist and that is to my understanding one of the more unpleasant things to deal with, but projecting the frustration of dealing with a tough mental health condition outwards is not really healthy.
In my experience the majority of people on Lemmy and specifically this community are pretty understanding and I think deserve the benefit of the doubt.
I didn’t read that comment so uncharitably. I think they’re saying that society is unkind to people with ADHD.
Yeah we don’t exactly have an equal world. Or one that even allows for much deviation without heavy punishment as basically seen by… Well above comment.
Sounds rough. Don’t take it out on me.