cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15904702

“This was intentional,” said U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib. “You don’t accidentally kill massive amounts of children and their families over and over again and get to say, ‘It was a mistake.’”

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    7 months ago

    For the IDF and the Israeli government, every Gazan is Hamas. There’s no distinction.

    They’ve used this argument that Hamas is hiding within civilians as an excuse to kill at many Palestinians as possible.

    Finally, it doesn’t matter if there was even one Hamas official in that camp. It was a humanitarian camp that was designated as a safe civilian zone. It shouldn’t have been bombed. That’s a clear violation of international law.

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      7 months ago

      You know what would distinguish them? If Hamas and their loyalists wore uniforms. The failure to do so is a clear violation of international law. That strategy, combined with the tunnel system, the total disregard Hamas loyalists have for their own children’s lives, and their Iranian and Qatari backed lawfare campaigns, makes this situation unprecedented.

      Obviously though, if this particular location was being used to harbor Hamas commanders, it’s not a humanitarian camp or a safe zone. Everywhere Hamas goes, anyone near them is in harms way.

      How many more generations of Palestinian will you condemn to die under the leadership of a far right panislamist dictatorship that has a track record of corrupting every public institution and turning them into instrumentalities of international terrorism, just because you’re too sad about the news?

      No thanks, Israeli democracy is redeemable, Gaza is not.

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        7 months ago

        You don’t get it. As I said in my previous comment, for the IDF, every Palestinian is part of Hamas in their eyes.

        In fact the whole ideology behind Zionism is to colonize the entirety of Palestine land and claim it as the Jewish promised land of Israel, killing anyone who resists that ideology.

        If you support that ideology that one set of people with a certain religious belief are the true people of God and are superior to everyone else and that anyone who opposes them in their crusade to remove or kill the native people of Palestine to claim it as their own Holy Land, then, you’re nothing less than an apologist for judeo-fascism and genocide.

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          I don’t support that ideology. Religion is idiotic and should have no role in government.

          It has much less of a role in Israel’s government and legal customs than in Palestine’s. Israel has written law. Palestinian law is “whatever the terrorist leaders say,” and some of them don’t even live in Palestine, they live like kings in Qatari penthouses, off oil money, protected and financed by the Qatari monarchy, whose ideology is the literal opposite of Zionism, panislamism.

          Israel is there and it isn’t going anywhere. It has defeated its military and political adversaries. The remaining extremists should surrender if they cared about their kin, but they literally do not. That’s the pan-Islamist ideology you’re defending, the one that stones you to death if you suggest anyone should hold a national election to determine the leadership and law. Hamas has no future and if they want to take Gaza with them that’s their choice. Their supporters seem perfectly happy, proud even, to ignore warnings and be buried with them. They don’t kill anyone who resists Zionism. That’s idiotic. There are millions of Israeli’s who are not Zionist and who do not support Netanyahu.

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            Ok. Keep believing that if you want, but you’re just a victim of Israel’s propaganda.

            You need to read about the history of Israel, the author of the idea of Zionism and the state of Israel and how they persecuted the Palestinians for over a hundred years to try to colonize that area and claim it as theirs.

            Everything about Israel is wrong and it doesn’t sit well with the vast majority of the world. The only reason some supports it is because of the industrial military complex and having a political and military partner in the middle East.

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              7 months ago

              And you need to read the previous thousand years of his, see what the “Palestinians” were doing to the Jews.

              Israel exists and it’s not going anywhere now.

              Maybe you think it should not exist? Okay, you’re not going to do shit about that. The only only entity that might do anything about that, is Iran.

              And how will the war between Iran and Israel end?

              The answer that to that question is really the only concern I have as to near future middle east politics.

              Because you see how sad everyone here is about 35,000 bodies?

              Try to imagine how sad 100 times sadder is, if the resultant War kills 3.5 million people. Or a thousand times more sad, if it kills 35 million people, which is the likely outcome.

              You could be seeing death tolls of 35,000 forget every 8 months, it could be every 8 minutes. It’s only through delusion that you have built this situation up in your head into something so existential. It’s not.

              You’re getting worked up about a local police matter and 35,000 people who had every opportunity to get out of the way and end this war.

              If this were happening in my state, we would have already had all sorts of true crime crime bloggers, podcasters, and armchair detectives with local knowledge, mapping out all the tunnels and the hierarchy of Hamas. The war would have been over in a week. But no. Can’t have that, locals have to support the terrorists even with the cost of their own lives. That’s their choice.