• Joker Charlie@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    There could be many reasons. I don’t know where they are deploying them, how much training the crews have had and many others that factor into survivability. I’m not saying the Abrams is the best tank ever, just saying that there are many factors that can contribute to why they aren’t doing well in the field for the Ukraine.

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      7 months ago

      Sure, I agree with that. There are tangible factors that make T-72 a better tank though. It’s a simpler design, making it easier to produce and maintain. It’s more manoeuvrable, it’s lighter so it doesn’t get stuck in mud. Doesn’t use a turbine engine, which has been a cause for endless problems. So, while many factors combine to decide overall effectiveness, the quality of the weapon itself is important as well.

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        7 months ago

        more manoeuvrable

        Ah yes, there’s nothing quite like a 4 km/h reverse speed. That’s a really tangible factor making the T-72 a better tank.

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        7 months ago

        Each tank has their advantages, but if you’re going to have an army use a tank with little to no training or spare parts, the T-72 is definitely a no brainer.

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          7 months ago

          Or you know a tank that will be used in actual battle conditions where you’re not going to have guaranteed support. The whole NATO strategy has been to invade small defenceless countries and brutalize people there. You don’t need to worry about stuff like logistics in these situations. A real war is a different animal.

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            7 months ago

            Once again, it depends on where the tanks are deployed and what training the crews have. We do not know if these weapons were deployed and used in the same way. Unless you know this, you can’t really say.

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              7 months ago

              Western media has been telling us that Ukrainians have been trained up to NATO standards. So, going by that we have to assume that that’s the quality of NATO training and weaponry on display.