Veganism is Dark Souls only because restaurants haven’t learned how to git gud
Unless you are living in Berlin or Vienna. Than it’s like “Story Mode/ Easy Mode”
And that’s only touching upon the restaurant scene. Supermarkets carry everything you could ever want for a vegan diet and I live in a rather small-ish town in Germany (~80k). Probably even more insane in a city like Berlin or Vienna.
Thats so true. Thankfully asian restaurants usually have options because european cuisine sucks when it comes to vegans or even vegetarians.
asians know their spices, you can eat a shoe if you spice it right.
european vegan food is a bunch of canned stuff mixed up in a bowl
I love american chinese food so much, but the last place I got Buddah’s delight was definitely a bunch of canned stuff mixed in a bowl with the saddest fried tofu ever. I have messed up some tofu and this was worse.
Although, you do have to watch out sometime. Egg and fish (sauce) could be used for some dishes without explicitly telling you about that beforehand.
Apparently that is a problem with kimchi, for example, where the animal-derived ingredients are not considered to be part of the “main ingredients”, like nappa cabbage or radishes, so they can sometimes be forgotten when asked if it’s vegan.
Yes, same shit with genuine parmesan not being vegetarian because of animal rennet. Lots of cheeses are like this
Yea or some mozzarella not being vegetarian for the same reason
Tell me you know nothing about European cuisines without telling me you know nothing about European cuisines.
Vegan is going to be a bit harder in the northern parts because butter but there’s a fuckton of traditional naturally vegetarian dishes. Peasants back in the days had maybe a pig that they raised for food and another to sell, that’s not a “meat every day” type of supply. Eggs are a different matter.
It seems like every where I go from restaurants to pubs in the UK have good veggie and vegan options these days, it’s a far cry from when I went veggie eighteen odd years back.
Ugh being vegan is too hard, i dont want to only be limited to the literal hundreds of edible plants, and centuries of plant based cooking techniques. let me just eat the same 3 baby animals and their excretions.
Veganism isn’t only about food. No idea how they handle checking every single item to see if it’s vegan. There’s a lot of stuff that uses non-vegan stuff to be produced.
Cooking is easy, the hard part is knowing what exactly IS vegan.
There’s an app called Fig that I use that makes it much easier. You tell it what you don’t want to buy (there are presets for vegan, vegetarian, allergies, brand boycotts, etc.), and you take a picture of the ingredients list on a product. It’ll tell you if it matches your preferences, or even if it’s questionable.
Like most things, you learn as you go. I just learned my dishsoap isn’t vegan, but I already have it, I’m not throwing it away now. I just wont buy it again. I’ll be checking the next soap I buy. Each new thing needs to be researched. I’m just more comfortable with my choices than I was before.
It’s definitely not easy and takes some research, but it’s not impossible.
For example, carmine is used as a red dye and is made of small insects that are processed for the dye. Some sweets use these, baking ingredients can too. If you don’t know that, you may end up supporting something non-vegan as a vegan.
It’s these little things, “unknown” and obscure knowledge, that can get you if you’re not well informed.
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Peer pressure is pretty rude, though. One ribbing is fine, but after that it’s just pride and bullying.
I’m probably gonna go vegetarian but I love dairy too much to go vegan
That’s fair. Cutting out meat is already making an intense impact and don’t let purists tell you otherwise.
Besides, dairy is affordable. Meat isn’t.
Cutting out meat is already making an intense impact
i doubt it.
Beef costs 60 kg of co2 to produce 1 kg of meat. Fruits an plants still release carbon in production, but much less.
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People underestimate just how intensely wasteful meat is, at least the average meat you find in a grocery store. There is a few exceptions like fishing it yourself but even that is getting unfeasible with how high demand is in the general population
first, i am suspicious of those numbers, and don’t think they tell teh whole story.
even if they did, cutting out meat from my diet would have no impact at all.
Your skepticism based on nothing. Giving them your money supports their negative impact.
i know for a fact that a meat eater died ten years ago. since then, the meat production has only risen. i could literally die and never buy another animal product, and it would not change the industry.
Of course spending trends affect the market. Meat processing facilities are slowly closing all over.
Not that this bullshit, empty-headed comment warranted a reply.
That’s ok. There are more than enough sources to learn about it. When you are ready, you are going to do it.
your snide condescension isn’t persuasive
Are you open to being persuaded?
yes, but I am also highly skeptical, so you’d need proof, not rhetoric.
Which, as they said, are readily available if you actually wanted to learn.
Just buy eco eggs and milk if they are available. Those fuckers will torture the animals to the brink of killing them.
Organic milk and eggs do jack for the animal’s wellbeing - they are still being bred and tortured (and killed) for our pleasure. Having half a square meter more to themselves does not change this fact.
We call em Öko over here and they tend to be available in every supermarket.
If you live in a country like the USA you can already buy non-animal dairy! Unfortunately it’s illegal where I live (thanks to the Green party) but a lot of dairy companies think it’s the future as it has a fraction of the environmental impact and none of the cruelty associated with industrial cattle farming.
I don’t know, Dark Souls fans don’t have to work that into every conversation they have.
And dark souls is actually beatable by everyone if you put enough skill in.
Being Vegan is just plainly impossible depending on where a person lives (affordability and availability) and nutrient needs.
Id argue that some person have disabilities that prevent interactions with the game
People were able to beat it without sound, blindfolded and on Bongo controllers
Surely there will be a way for anyone
You are talking about people who dedicated so much time into this
At this point Id say that being vegan is easier than beating ds blindfolded for the average person. You overestimate the difficulty of having a plant based alimentationDon’t forget the steering wheel
My and my level 334 int fai build disagree.
Honestly being vegan with modern farming and food production techniques is pretty easy, especially when compared to being vegan in the past - though if al-Ma’arri managed to live into his 80s while being a disabled, atheistic vegan in the middle east in the late 900s/early 1000s AD then it probably wasn’t exactly impossible!
Absolutely true. We have everything we could want/need to live a healthy vegan life. Most people are just afraid of trying something different or are purposefully ignorant of the implications of a non-vegan lifestyle.
One of the things that made it hardest for me was being teased and picked on by my family, while I wasn’t asking anything from them. I just didn’t want meat with dinner. It was nonstop anytime I showed my face, and if I spoke I was spoken over and ignored. It made me very antisocial, and I didn’t adhere to my values. Then almost twenty years later I did and I’ve gained a bunch of weight because I’m comfortable while I eat.
I feel you. My SO and I have been vegan for around 3 years now and my family (mostly my older brother, tbh) keeps trying to get us to “cheat on veganism” for some super stupid reason. The worst has been when my brother said that he’s “constantly” making compromises for us in terms of food, so it’d only be fair if we did once. 🙄
They’re/he’s probably just too insecure to give it a proper shot and to admit that what they’re/he’s doing might be morally wrong.
My in-laws are always doing that, too. They’ll even spend money on things knowing fully we wont consume them, only to pout. We have a bunch of decoritive imported goods, lol.
Definitely sharing this with my vegan gamer mother in law.
Feel free to do so. :)
Painfully simple once you remove the noob traps?
Yup, pretty much. :)
Nope, because 🥓🥩🍖🧆🐟🍳🥛🧀🍔 🤤🤤🤤
m’bacon
And then will come the time the doctor forbids most of these but you still can’t have falafel because it’s deep fried.
Depends on where you live obviously. US, Canada, Europe - fuck yes. Especially if you take the time to research animal ag and vegan alternatives.
Being british is the bloodborne
And being vegetarian is the elden Ring (gatekeeping vegans will hate on you)
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I want the “Hello Kitty Island Adventure” difficulty.
Ok but the more I learn about vegan recipes, the more I realize meat has been delicious enough to kept me ignorant of finer technique. Cooking and chopping has improved a lot in search if better vegan flavors.
I have some good cookbooks but on youtube I’ve found: Adam Ragusea, Marco Pierre White, Lucas Sin.
This joke format is the Dark Souls of laughing at something
If you think about it, Lemmy is the Dark Souls of social media platforms.
