cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16955018

“Jamaal and our movement were such a threat to right-wing power, to GOP megadonors, and to AIPAC’s influence in Congress that they had to spend $15 million to defeat us,” said one progressive organizer.

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    So where did all the pro-Isreal propaganda get pushed to? The anti-Isreal propaganda is everywhere. (I don’t know a better word than propaganda to use here but I don’t mean it as any sense of invalidating or dismissing eirher the anti-Isreal/pro-Isreal sentiment)

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      Personally, I think there’s a fuck-ton of nuance to the issue and I find that it’s best not to listen to a bunch of high-school kids lecturing everyone on who to vote for based on foreign affairs that they weren’t even aware were happening less than a year ago.

      Where the others went?

      This is lemmy. You’re not allowed to accept that the situation is nuance led as fuck. Even if you mostly agree with the hive.

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        6 months ago

        high-school kids

        “Anyone who disagrees with me on anything must be younger than me and therefore wrong.” - Boomer logic.

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          Yawn…. Is there anything that doesn’t offend you? Seriously man. I’m not engaging with you on this anymore.

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            6 months ago

            You said you were gonna ignore me last time you spewed your hatred for the anti-genocide left.

            That does not obligate me to ignore you.

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              I said I was ignoring you then. And I did. And now I’m ignoring your current nonsense now. You see, it’s a thing that can be activated at will. And don’t mistake my responding to you as some form of hypocrisy. Or that your little trolling attempt was successful. I’m fully allowed to respond to whatever bullshit you bring me. That is my right. I will however choose when I wish- to ignore discussing whatever dumb shit you try and bring up as a means to distract from the point to create a straw man as is pretty much ALL you do.

              And considering that you’re incapable of stopping yourself from mouthing off at anyone who dares to disagree with your little agenda, it’s pretty easy to do.

              You should probably get used to it. I have seen that I’m not the only one that does it.

              Oh, and for the record- and on the topic of ignoring things… As I’ve said and you’ve ignored before- I don’t have a problem with the far left.

              I have a huge problem with the “far left.” And you should too.

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                You’re spectacularly bad at ignoring me.

                Two things. Opposition to genocide is not a “little agenda” just because it pisses you off to see people who don’t unconditionally support everything centrist Democrats do.

                And your distinction about the far left versus the “far left”? Bullshit. You hate everyone to your left and tell yourself that they’re to your right to justify it.

                Now go back to “ignoring” me.

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                  Three things:

                  One- You seem to take GREAT offense to my accusing some people of being fake far lefters. So much so that you can’t help yourself and seem compelled to respond to my every comment about it. It’s almost like… you’re incapable of not responding to my every comment on the topic. It’s like… yOu jUsT cAn’T iGnOre mE! (Waaah!)

                  Two- gEnOciDe is absolutely a “little agenda.” When positioned from the perspective of the far right trolls that pretend to support it. The same people you get incredibly upset about when people accuse you of being- but adamantly defend them when people go on the offensive on them.

                  You really need to choose a lane buddy.

                  And three- you claim time-and-again that you’re going to vote for Biden. At this point: I’m calling bullshit. And I’m pretty sure we both know it’s bullshit. And my evidence is One and Two from just above this paragraph if you need a reference.

                  K? Bye!

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                    This is not what ignoring me looks like. This is utterly indistinguishable from previous conversations we’ve had, except you’ve made your genocide support much clearer.

                    Everything to your left must be all the way to your right. You’ve never considered once that genocide is wrong and that you’re wrong for supporting it.