Huh, thanks for making me aware of this. I’ll look into this more. Genuinely appreciate the insight.

Was sarcasm.

Also can’t see downvotes on my instance. Not sure why.

I can say agree to disagree here, but really I guess we’ll have to see what happens between now and November. Honestly it’s a bit of a relief to have more good-faith discussion here, so can say I definitely appreciate that.

Actually a number of them are never-Trumpers. They did a few interviews after she dropped out and found that a number of them stating that though they were registered Republicans that they were going to vote for Biden over Trump.

I think it also helps that she didn’t bend the knee and endorse him when dropping out.

I can see some of them doing this. They did a few interviews with Haley supporters after she dropped out, and though a lot of them said they’d take Biden over Trump, I can also see RFK Jr. taking some votes because of his more right-leaning rhetoric on certain issues compared to Biden.

I don’t they’ll vote for Trump either, it’s more likely that they’ll vote for an independent or third-party candidate or just stay at home.

I could absolutely be wrong about seeing the primary as an indicator for what could happen in the federal election, but Biden’s massive drop in support in polling from Arab Americans and young people has me really concerned, even if Trump isn’t picking up that lost support for himself.

Biden and Trump are far from strong candidates. While she performed like crap with Republican primary voters, polling showed that in a general election Nikki Haley would have destroyed Biden in an election. In a similar sense, polls showed Trump losing the general election if facing “a generic Democrat” that wasn’t Biden.

Overall, I don’t want Biden running, hell I’d have any Democrat take his place. I don’t like Kamala, but when compared to Biden, I feel she would have a better chance at beating Trump than he does. However, if Biden’s not going to pass the torch to a better-performing Democrat, he can’t take these risks losing crucial voters like this in my mind.

I’m not familiar with overall demographics, but an important demographic for Democrats is Arab Americans and young people, where Democrats have had a stronghold on them for some time now.

Biden used to have I think it was 60% support among Arab Americans. Then after October 7th that support tanked, and all you have to do is look at Michigan’s uncommitted vote in the primaries to see the effect that it’s had for his support with them and young voters, especially in communities like Dearborn.

Like at first glance the Michigan polls show that Biden completely dominated the primary, but you also have to keep in mind that the Uncommitted movement was aiming for maybe 20k votes at most. Instead they got over 100k votes.

Back in 2016 Hillary Clinton lost Michigan to Trump by an incredibly small margin. When you add together the Uncommitted votes with the votes for Marianne Williamson and Dean Phillips (who I understand has dropped out and has the same stance as Biden), you get an amount similar to that which Hillary lost by.

Arab Americans and young people have made their voice clear in focus groups that while some of them will not vote for Biden come the federal election, others will if he just simply condemns Israel properly and stop sending them weapons and aid while also calling for a ceasefire. Biden can either lose these crucial votes and possibly lose Michigan to Trump, or he can do what the voters want and regain at least some of their support come November.

Hm, almost as though Democrats should be pressured by voters to abolish the electoral college… wonder what will change their stance on that.

Maybe… if the Democrats saw their support weakening as a result of their terrible policies… hmmmm.

You know what also helps third parties? Votes.

Without votes what purpose do they have in continuing?

At what point did they say that? Of course the Republicans are miles worse than the Democrats, but why should people sit there and be like “oh, let me just vote for genocide lite when the other party is genocide standard”

Edit: slight edit since Kbin notifs are weird.

You need to do some critical thinking. Vote for the person who best aligns with your beliefs, not which of the two big names you hate less.

Ah yes, label me as a Trump sympathizer, cause that definitely helps your cause with the average joe.

Edit: This you calling me a Russian agent?

Amazing. Not a single mention of Palestine.

Putting his backing of Netanyahu aside, there’s a number of things he could do to up his popularity. Naming two from the top of my head, he could forgive medical debt at the federal level and federally legalize marijuana and remove it as a Schedule 1 drug.

I get where you’re coming from. I’m definitely in favour of a ranked choice voting approach cause it does a lot more to get rid of the spoiler or dividing vote fallacy.

The entire spoiler or dividing vote hoax is based on this false assumption that the voters carry the responsibility for not voting for a “lesser evil” candidate when that burden of responsibility should instead be on the nominee for not doing enough in their power to win over votes.

With the current election, Biden is being a complete dumbass and is hemorrhaging support from Arab Americans and young people because of his refusal to stop giving weapons and aid to Israel and properly withholding those until a full and permanent ceasefire is reached. He’s also losing support from Hispanics, though the reasons there are more to do with how he hasn’t been doing enough to better the lives of working-class people.

Arab Americans and young people aren’t going to turn around and vote for Trump, or in the off chance he receives a conviction before November, whoever else the Republican nominee will be. They’re more likely to vote third-party or independent or not vote at all, and unfortunately with the latter, that’s when the burden of responsibility becomes shared.

Third party candidates still exist and are legitimate options to vote for despite what everyone wants you to believe.

Vote for an independent candidate. People have this wild notion that voting for a third-party candidate means you’re throwing your vote away.

You’re not. You’re voting for the candidate that best represents your values. People who say otherwise have fallen for the brainrot talking point that’s been around since Ross Perot ran in '96.

Because the right would support Palestine, that’s absolutely how this works.

Agree with their protest or not, you can’t “lock them up” for this. The video clearly shows a peaceful protest with no violence involved. Locking them up would violate their free speech rights.

Still with this? Is there anything that they’re doing differently from other social media corps based in the US? The user data gets sold regardless.

I mean, politics aside, good call if it’s an outlier. Especially if it skews the average of the polls.