JustSomePerson

You won’t be able to use the bankid when your previous phone is broken, though. That’s my point.

Lol did you even read the article

Yes. This whole sub-thread is about when your old phone is broken. You’re not being trolled, you didn’t read properly.

No. Once every few years. However, the gap in service is absolute disaster in modern society. Without a phone, you can’t use public transport, can’t pay for parking, can’t get a taxi/uber/competitor, etc. etc.

Any “progress” that makes the turnaround time longer when your phone breaks is a horrible and unacceptable downside.

download it via their app

On the phone that isn’t connecting to the internet, because it doen’t have a SIM yet? Or do eSIM phones use free internet before they have an eSIM issued?

Literally anything you’d want to do with a physical SIM you can do with an eSIM.

No. There is no reason for you to blatantly LIE. It is NOT possible for the consumer to switch to using a borrowed or backup handset, when there is no physical token. How on earth do you think that contradicting actual reality is an argument?

The fact that carriers have poor security today isn’t an argument for discontinuing the part of the system that still allows the consumer to be in control. It’s an argument against it.

What prevents someone else from doing that at any point, taking over my number? Is the only authentication a simple login to the mobile provider’s website?

Have you considered not being a hateful piece of shit. People like you are why the blue graphs have the direction they have. You would do well to consider whether declaring half the population as evil for no other reason than their gender, can ever lead to a successful result.

Fuck them for calling the left liberal. Liberals are the people who sell schools, hospitals, and social services to the lowest bidding private enterprise. A solidly right wing ideology that puts profit over people.

Why Buy Anything Else?

It seems to be the size of an air craft carrier.

That’s your problem as a consumer accepting that. This thread makes me depressed, with the amount of people happy to allow shitty US consumer hostile practices to become more common globally.

Keeping my number. Are you saying that I can immediately, online, get my existing number connected to a different handset? If I can’t, then that’s why I want to transfer the physical SIM.

Exactly. What a shitty anti-feature. Your answer proves that the people saying that “eSIMs are functionally the same as normal SIM” are full of absolute shit.

I don’t want a “new sim”, I want my old one, which doesn’t exist anymore since it was virtual and only existed in my now broken previous phone. How does it work in that situation?

The major function of a normal SIM is the ability to take it out of one device and put it into another one, effectively disconnecting my identity towards the network provider, from the handset. With eSIM, that doesn’t exist, and if my phone breaks, it’s unclear what happens.

To me, that’s not secure, that’s unsafe and insecure.

That is entirely irrelevant to the discussion here. The person I am responding to is arguing that we somehow could transform into a society where nobody has to work. Not one where everybody who works today still works, but with fairer and better distribution of the produced output.

Which means they either need to be worked, i.e. labor is needed; or there is scarcity of food and goods. Neither option results in a post-scarcity society.

Do you know what the means of production are? Labor. Not magic!

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I wish “social media drama” would be somewhere else than “technology”. There is nothing in this story related to technology, it’s about business, people, and politics.