Commiunism

It’s not just a reddit thing, the internet is filled with gooners

Have you tried just giving the friend MP code and them joining through it? Worked for me without any zerotier, so it could be repack dependent. I used the GOG version.

Why? US foreign policy hasn’t changed since manifest destiny so threats to attack are literally nothing new, it’s still ““aiding”” a lot of western countries with stationed soldiers in case some countries outside the western bloc decides to attack, nuclear tests is a bit more iffy after the cold war, but can easily be justified by wars breaking out, trade war isn’t in the interests as well given how they have a very large economy and losing American products from all their companies would be horrible (imagine all the tech for instance)…

There’s genuinely no reason to cut ties with US for any country, doing so would just shoot it in the foot since you lose one of the largest economies for trade.

Truth nuke

When we’re talking raw resources that can potentially be turned into things needed to provide for the people, then yes there is easily enough. Today you have a lot of people living on a subsistence level, but also a ton of potential arable land, resources to be mined, production to be refocused that can provide for said people.

However, unless we get rid of capitalism (tired trope but hopefully I can provide substance below), then even in the best case scenario of how capitalism can develop from here on will this idea of “providing for everyone” remain impossible.

The main issue here isn’t “the rich” or them not being taxed (which others blame in the thread), but how capitalist mode of production fundamentally organizes production - goods aren’t produced to satisfy human needs (use value), but strictly for profit (exchange value) as commodities, to be bought and sold.

If you have millions of malnourished lower-class people and a million middle and upper strata demanding more luxuries, the latter’s demand will always be prioritized while the former’s will until things get desperate that production for them finally leads to desired margins and profit rates. Why produce cheap commodities whose main buyers have very limited purchasing power (therefore a low cap on growth) when a business can produce a commodity that turns more profit and whose buyers are more wealthy, leading to more potential growth?

That’s not to mention overproduction, the need of a reserve army of labor which are unemployed people kept on a brink of poverty to compete in the labor market to keep wages down and therefore profit up, and many other funny things. To change this fundamentally, one would have to ditch production for profit and instead replace it with production to satisfy human needs via economic planning - anything short of that is not enough and results in “capitalism coated in X”.

it’s called material conditions sweaty, you wouldn’t get it

The interest group that both propagated Keynesianism and ended it was the exact same, what changed their attitude was the profit rate boom from WW2 finally drying up and that economic philosophy no longer being sustainable as a result.

If capitalism was that simple, Keynesianism wouldn’t have gone away in the 80’s

Pocket it. Won’t make it any better to live in, but neither will a pitiful investment that’s enough to host one event that’s forgotten in a few days

Marxists would get annoyed at liberals crying fascism at things that aren’t fascism. It’s a very specific thing

Yup, the things happening nowadays in US and the World as a whole are just a culmination of previous decades, like policies introduced during that time and shift in material conditions such as how much profit do companies make and in turn the purchasing power of workers, it’s not a silly little accident. Though of course, it’s politically beneficial to pretend otherwise, in a sense of “these guys are stupid and look where they’ve taken things, vote for the previous guys instead to return to the previous sane status quo!!”.

Like just look at Trump and discourse surrounding him - the guy is a bastard don’t get me wrong, but a lot of the most-public most-hated policies of his such as ICE raids and the “alligator camps” were first introduced by Obama and Biden respectively, and even used much more in terms of how many people they affected. Of course, the media didn’t really report on it that much as they do today.

Like 40 million working class people are about to lose their SNAP benefits in the US, but everyone seems to care about some clown house that most people aren’t going to even visit.

God I love the news and nationalism

Real liberal democracy has never been tried

And replace them with what? What’s the enemy here exactly?

Yeah, it’s your personal responsibility to vote for the “good” candidate, with voting for the “bad” candidate being an individual’s moral and mental failure as opposed to it being caused by shifting material conditions, crises or simply just failure of liberal political side to garner enough support or them targeting only the affluent middle-class intelligentsia.

Why don’t everyone just vote for the good guys, are they stupid?

To be fair, you don’t need to update your system to install a package, all you need to do is run the update command just to sync up the database, then cancel out when prompted.

I’ve gone multiple weeks/months without updating and everything was fine.

Yeah it won’t, because commodity production, markets, accumulative money and therefore capital won’t be abolished, meaning that the incentives to oppress certain groups of people for growth will remain.

Only after we overcome the production for profit model and replace it with production to satisfy people’s needs will capital fully be replaced and dead, removing any incentives to discriminate (aka systemic discrimination). Will it change prejudices that people have immediately? No, but it will certainly disappear over time given how the central source of these prejudices is now abolished + a revolution and development like that is only possible in a class conscious society which produces solidarity with other workers no matter their features (USSR is a good example of this when looking at Oct Revolution - women were viewed as fellow comrades, led the charge on most influential mass protests, and once revolution happened they got a ton of systemic freedom in terms of abortion rights and legal autonomy, while the rest of the western world was still on legal guardianship).

If they held no benefit to the ruling class, then no. LGBT opens up more industry focused on identity (via pride merch, medical needs) which means more profitable industry for bourgeois, while women’s suffrage legitimizes capital’s rule further by allowing more people to vote + liberates capitalist women which is what bourgeois feminism is primarily about.

Whether these reforms would have happened without the noise though, can’t really say - there’s no mirror that looks into alternate realities. Still, these kinds of reformist mass movements are usually a result of bourgeois infighting, not some spontaneous working class action - just look at who organizes and funds them.

Thats not to say liberal working class are idiots for joining them and acting as footsoldiers, no - there are definitely benefits to be had for one’s identity no matter the class, like in the case of LGBT, but the things won aren’t full-on liberation, just specific compromises that are capital-friendly(women getting voting rights but still being discriminated against to encourage births/staying at home and raising more workers, LGBT getting essentially bare minimum recognition and care to be sold merch but not enough to significantly attack the traditional family for child-raising). Therefore, true liberation can only happen via the abolishment of the class society, else it’s gonna be endless compromises that miss the mark.

To give a bit of hope to the liberals in the US though, what’s happening there isn’t new and the state of things from before (as in liberal democracy functioning normally) is going to sooner and later return, it’s a cycle that happens every now and again due to falling rate of profit, crisis and rise of reaction that happens as a result.

Eventually, liberal capitalists will start fighting the conservative capitalists to get their place in the sun again, maybe it’s going to happen electorally or maybe there’s going to be a slaughter of millions of workers in the name of liberal democracy or anti-fascism, after which wholesome democracy will reign supreme once again and the countdown towards another crisis and rise of reaction will start once again. Isn’t that lovely?

Funnily enough there’s a very similar situation to the US that’s going on in Serbia, where a canopy falling and killing a bunch of people due to government cheapening out led to lots of outrage and exploded into a massive student movement against the president due to corruption, election rigging, suppression of dissent and executive branch abuse.

At first, they did peaceful protests, blocked roads and all that jazz constantly, but after seeing that it had led them literally nowhere (they got nothing except for a fake concession that was some minister resigning) except on getting arrested and beaten up in jails, they decided to give a green light to civil disobedience, violence, trashing ruling party’s headquarters all over the country.

What did this escalation result in? A whole load of nothing except cracked skulls, mostly for the students.

If you’re looking at reformism ‘fixing’ things during the course of history, civil disobedience the vast majority if not all of the time was noise. What eventually got implemented or changed wasn’t because the ruling class got scared, but because they were either getting major gains in terms of compromise as a result of the reform, or the reform itself was beneficial to their interests and only a small minority didn’t want them to pass.