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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • None the less, in my first post I spesifically pointed out that I am not looking for “just remove meat”, which was the point. And your answer was “well these foods are good if you just remove the meat”.

    I know what you asked. But no, that is not what I said.

    I did not say “remove the meat”. I pointed out that all these meals are vegetarian until you add the meat. None of them are intrinsically meat-based.

    This is EXACTLY what I mean when I say you need a change of mindset, if you actually want to try.

    However, I find that the modern vegetarian cousine has stagnated because of the need to sell “meatlesd meat”.

    I have no idea where you are looking, but nothing could be further from the truth. Vegetarian options have flourished because more people are moving to a meat-free diet.

    I have tried a lot of “vegan options”, and as said, I am not looking to turn vegan. That is why I can decide NOT to compromise when it comes to meat.

    And of course, you think pretty much every vegan dish is a compromise, and so you will continue to not try. Convenient!

    And if you want to convert people to veganism, you need to change of mindset.

    Bite me :)

    A recipe is a start.

    I’ve suggested three already, I’m sorry you have trouble reading.


  • This is why people who eat mainly meat don’t even consider vegan food.

    No, the reason is that you have invented a false history to justify not even trying.

    There are entire cultures where eating meat is either a rare occasion, or simply never done, even though they have access to meat and livestock.

    People eat what they had available. Sometimes that was meat, many times it wasn’t.

    Just one recipe. Is that too much?

    A simple vegetable soup is easy and nutritious. Most curries are vegetable-first and only become non-vegetarian by choosing to add meat instead of something like lentils or checkpeas. Vegetable lasagna is decadent and satisfying.

    There are near-infinite recipes available of food that is plant-based and tastes good. But you have this list of exclusionary factors where you have decided that various meals “should” have meat, and therefore a meat-free version has made a replacement, and is therefore inferior and you aren’t going to try it.

    You don’t need a recipe, you need a change of mindset.



  • There are vegetable versions of every “incorporated” meal where all the ingredients are mixed together, like pasta, soup, curry, stir-fry, etc… And for every other meal, the meat portion is easily replaceable with another portion of vegetables.

    Going vegetarian really is as simple as “don’t put meat in it”. Just take it off the ingredient list. Meals do not naturally contain meat, so if you don’t add any, they won’t have any. It’s not something to be “substituted” unless you are wanting to mimic a specific meal.







  • The idea that your create your world with unfettered freedom and no restrictions is a false notion.

    Good thing I didn’t say that then.

    But I’m saying you also have to be realistic and face the fact that no one is going to pay you to sit on your bum and play video games all day (in all likelihood).

    Who said anything about that?

    The world you want to live in is bounded by the stark facts of economic necessities and social pressures.

    Except economics is not “facts”, it’s a way of organising that we have the power to change. Specifically referring to economics, the world is the way that it is because some people want it to be this way, it is not a fact of nature.




  • Well, sorta but also not really.

    Neither party seems to have any interest in reforming the voting system to something more representative. So in that way I guess you could say they are colluding, but more reasonably they simply share a common incentive.

    But it really is the system itself that makes third party candidates basically impossible. It incentivises people to vote strategically, not for the party they want but rather against the party they don’t want. That system is eventually sure to collapse into a two-party system.