Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death9 to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

This was before Israel began cutting off water, fuel, and medicine to Jenin, as part of their effort to expand the conflict. It ignores the thousands of casualties in the West Bank as well, which will continue to increase as Israel escalates.

You think a death on the battlefield is equivalent to bombing a hospital?

Ok.

More Palestinians killed than in 1948. But, we can’t criticize the administration committing a holocaust, we can’t say anything negative about Hitler because “Himmler would be even worse”

I still remember when you shitlibs said “WHATABOUTISM” was bad, now you use it unironically to defend ethnic cleansing.

War is not the extermination of an ethnic group. Deaths on a battlefield are not dead children buried under rubble.

You are comparing the battle of the bulge with a death camp.

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So, assuming Kamala wins and that Israel continues escalating in the West Bank, in a year or two when the death count finally hits 600,001, you will finally allow criticism of your golden girl?

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Because I have seen the polling regarding Israeli support of the current operations.

Because I have seen Israeli TV.

Because I have read Israeli news.

This is not a “Bibi bad, he goes away and peace will reign” situation. Anymore than impeaching Andrew Jackson would have stopped the American genocide of it’s indigenous people.

Well shit. I guess I can’t read.

If you live in a swing state you gotta do what you think is best.

My vote literally doesn’t matter. Kamala will not get within 10 points in my state. I am not gonna mix my pride up with her shame.

She does.

And she has made clear the indigenous people of Palestine will continue to be ethnically cleansed under her administration.

Listen.

I ain’t gonna tell you now to vote.

I firmly object to people telling ME how to vote. Especially when it is clear they care more about a tax policy that will never pass the house, than they do about tens of thousands of dead children.

Thank goodness it looks like he will lose.

Now, can we talk about the current administration enabling, supporting, and funding the worst ethnic cleansing the middle east has seen in centuries?

Lancet reports that, conservatively, we are looking at 200k dead Palestinians.

Displaced, killed, imprisoned Kurds, at the hands of Saddam, only hit 180k.

Why should I vote for someone who is responsible for more innocent deaths than Saddam Fucking Hussein?

Kamala only has to follow US law to earn my vote. I am not asking a lot, be better than Saddam Hussein and follow the law.

All these people are convinced that Trump would be worse for Palestinians.

And maybe they’re right, maybe Trump will send in straight up death squads. Maybe he’ll build vans that pipe the exhaust into the cargo area and ship them to tel Aviv. Maybe he’ll start sending the Israelis Zyclon b.

But the fact remains. The last year has been the most deadly for Palestinians. Ever. More Palestinians have been killed in the last year than died during the formation of the state of Israel. More Palestinians have had their homes destroyed in the last year, then ever before in modern history.

At this point, saying Trump would be worse for Palestine is like saying that Himmler would have been worse for the Jews. Possibly technically correct, but also a poor attempted genocide denial.

Which side is less genocide?

Remember, The number of dead, The number of refugees, And the number of destroyed buildings, all outnumber what occured in 1948. By several times.

This is the worst ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries. Even Saddam racked up less kills when he was gassing Kurds.

You are huffing paint if you think a change of leadership will fix a genocidal ethnostate currently engaged in the most violent ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries.