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  • You misunderstood me. Saying that Hamas should get out of the kitchen means that Hamas should not build their military infrastructure in civilian areas, prevent the population from evacuating, and then cry when there are inevitable civilian losses when Israel attacks Hamas. I did not mean to imply that attacking civilians is ok, it is not. I meant that attacking Hamas is the only current option left for Israel, and that if civilians are there, there will be civilian deaths.

    About the quotes, I meant that evacuating a war zone is not ethnic cleansing. This is also the current situation in southern Israel, because of Hamas rockets and because some places attacked by Hamas were not yet rebuilt. This is also the current situation in southern Lebanon and northern Israel. You donā€™t seem to be complaining about the ethnic cleansing of jews in the north of Israel, and rightly so, because evacuating a war zone is a very responsible thing to do. It only becomes ethnic cleansing in hindsight, when the war ends, if they are not allowed to return.

    Also, why is ethnic cleansing part of genocide? These are two different crimes. They could come together, but canā€™t ethnic cleansing be committed without committing genocide?


  • They are being ordered to evacuate a war zone that Hamas chose. Hamas chose to use them as human shields. Israel is trying to get them out of the warzone.

    Would you prefer they were not ā€œethnically cleansedā€ to shelters in the south? Would you prefer they die when the IDF attacks Hamas infrastructure and militants in the active warzones in the strip?

    Or is it just that you would prefer that Israel doesnā€™t attack Hamas and leave them ruling Gaza and preparing for their next attack?

    What was genocidal about my comment? Implying that Hamas is responsible for this war? Or is it that Iā€™m implying that Hamas can end it any minute?



  • You donā€™t seem to know much about this conflict and about the area. There is a lot of Hamas in the west bank. Look at the pictures of the killed militants from the past weeks in the west bank, a majority of them are draped in Hamas funeral flags, only a minority are PLO militants.

    Secondly, Israel already accepted the validity of the Palestinian claims for the west bank and Gaza in multiple peace offers. They were not accepted by the Palestinians because they are not willing to accept Israelā€™s right to exist.

    If you have any other way of removing Hamas, letā€™s hear it. If not, would you prefer the civilians were not evacuated?

    Israel has many many Arabs in it, with equal rights. Hamas is the one that has in its charter the ā€œcleansing of Palestine of the Jewish filthā€.