Go to lemmy world. Any political comm. Or check in on reddit.

Since we’re not in a .world comm, there were just a lot of fucking Nazis. The US has always been significantly further right wing than it’s contemporary nations, at least since the 1800s, but since the 1920s it basically accelerated to light speed. Every minor progressive victory was a half century or more after other countries, and immediately hated by more than half the country; hence why so many rights in the US are tenuous scotus decisions and not laws.

The rest of the world after the 1950s has viewed you guys as the next Nazis. Hell even in WW2 you were only the good guys by comparison, and even then the Soviets were the protagonists of that era with all their flaws.

Only very recently and only in aesthetics has the US really made any strides, and because you chose aesthetics over legislation that progress was easy to destroy. You had a far right wing black president people called progressive because of the color of his skin, you ‘legalized’ gay marriage without legislation, you had all other companies doing rainbow capitalism to show how open and progressive your society was, despite having the highest wealth inequality in the world – and that’s no easy feat, North Korea exists.

The fall of the US to fascism was inevitable, because both the ruling class and the majority populous has always fully supported fascism, they just hate the aesthetics.

Anarchists tend to be smart enough to not use the word tankie.

There are exceptions of course.

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No matter how much you liberals whine, you’re not left wing. The left starts are the abolition of capitalism, as equality and equity cannot exist under capitalism.

As far as the origin of the term… That’s not how language works. It evolves over time. The liberals haven’t been included in the left since you people appointed Hitler after instigating more than a decade of institutional violence against communists.

You’re not left wing, you’re the exclusive reason fascists have ever gained power.

If you think nonviolence is core to the left wing, you need to go ahead and find a nice subreddit to join. Liberals aren’t left wing.

Hey, this propaganda is now 3 months out of date.

What’s the new Boogeyman to excuse selling your country out to billionaires that consistently take away your rights?

If liberals ever critically analyzed reality they’d be marxists.

Yes Mr Shapiro, everyone that thinks differently from you is a Russian or Chinese bot or troll, your viewpoint is the only one that can ever exist, you’re so smart and definitely not propagandaized.

The students that stole police weapons and started shooting?

Are black Americans oppressed in the US by being put in prison? Is it because they’re black or because they’re poor and thus more likely to need to do crime in order to survive?

If there were a solution that brought the entirety of black Americans out of poverty by locking up the most dangerous 10% of them after a jury trial and conviction until they were rehabilitated, while massively investing in majority black areas to ensure poverty is no longer a thing in those areas, would you do it?

This isn’t whataboubtism, before you fail to report me for that.

Also Hong Kong was colonized until it was returned to China, it was never independent. I’m sorry white people lost their tax haven.

And you call me propagandized… No, people in jail aren’t disappeared because they lost their right to talk to the press. No, there is not a global network of secret police arresting Chinese people. No, China is not alone in blocking travel to their country for hate speech or other bigotry.

If you believe these things, and you seriously see no problem with them, you aren’t able to speak on politics. It’d be like discussing consent with a Mormon or physics with a flat earther… I mean seriously, a global network of secret police stations in other countries? Complete control of the speech of 1,400,000,000 humans?

This is as ridiculous as the ‘Jewish new world order’ stuff a lot of you people believe

That’s fine, liberalism will be overthrown like it’s sister ideology feudalism before it.

Liberals are not left wing, the left starts at the abolition of capitalism. Without that they cannot back up any concept of equality or equity.

Biden’s nor Harris are left wing. Clinton certainly isn’t.

Short term pain for long term freedom is needed. If people had your point of view during the American civil war, you’d be the Confederate states of the US.

Every day people are the ones enabling and holding up fascism, not the uniforms, not the leadership, just people like you and your loved ones. Without you fascists have no power. Pressuring those around you, sabotaging their work if it’s helpful to the fascists, socially isolating those that refuse to help are the effective steps to take. If you don’t take them, you’re as bad as any fash with a gun or suit.