@eldereko

> he plugins are still very few compared to other mature editors. also, it’s not quite as configurable as Sublime

AFAIU, it doesn’t have a plugin runtime, which is fairly glaring to me (but maybe not for devs these days).

This is what triggered my “is it hype” thought, as I’ve seen people say it does but it’s in rust or something.

And I feel like many fail to realise how hard it is to build a new editor with everything we take for granted these days.

Fediverse & typst similarly.

@programming

I get that peeps are coming from VSCode and I support competition with MS’s EEE of software dev.

But, like, bloat and corporate capture were always the trade offs with VSCode … you all knew that right?

@hrefna @tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

Yea … it seems that things like this are part of Julia’s problem …

that for many the “two language problem” is actually the “two language solution” that’s working just fine and as intended, or as you say, well enough to make an ecosystem jump seem too costly.

@FizzyOrange

Yea I remember reading about some deeper issues with the language (Dan Luu was quite dark on it I think) and that more or less turned me off. At the time I would have had to have been amongst some dedicated users urging me on to consider adoption.

@festus

In general, how much more performant would you say Rust is or can be than Julia? Any good resources on this?

What’s interesting about this take is that it targets the whole “two language” thing and implies that it might be a fool’s errand.

@mvirts

Problem with that logic is that python was essentially “reborn” at some point 2010-2012.

That’s when scipy, pandas and notebooks all came together, and with early pandas putting python on the map more than some (cough - Guido - cough) are willing to admit.

Of course the maturity of the ecosystem by then is part of it … but also pushing through the python 3 situation wasn’t trivial and likely speaks to the momentum the science stack brought to the ecosystem.

@tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

I understood … I was reaching for some shorthand (500 char limits FTW!)

There’s probably a good amount of work that exists somewhere between your needs and “could be a spreadsheet”, where caring about performance isn’t an issue or hasn’t surfaced yet, either practically or culturally (where the boundaries of what research *can* be done “tomorrow” are of importance)

BTW, cheers for all the info!!

@tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

I’d suppose part of the problem might be that there’s a somewhat hidden 3rd category of user that “feels” whatever added complexity there is in a two-language lang like julialang and has no real need for performant “product” code.

And that lack of adoption amongst this cohort and your first enforces lang separation.

I may be off base with whether there’s a usability trade off, but I’d bet there’s at least the perception of one.

@astrojuanlu @programming

> Maybe nobody (save for the Julia developers) ever cared about the “two language problem”

Yea, it’s what prompted my post. I saw in a rust forum push back on the two language thing but from the lower level side (where they were arguing about introducing lazier memory management facilities on the basis that you should just use swift/Python etc).

And re MATLAB … absolutely! This is not a diss against Julia at all.

@Zagorath @Teppichbrand

And to really get it you have to have been a vulnerable commuter (cyclist etc) in an encounter with a car where they’ve clearly just not seen you and will kill you if you’re not constantly on the look out for such things.

Despite being well informed about such things I was still shocked my “first time” as I watched a car just turn into me like I wasn’t there while the driver was looking elsewhere.

cars were already a problem. Weaponising them with tech hype is toxic.

@technology @caseynewton

That search/SEO is broken seems to be part of the game plan here.

It’s probably like Russia burning Moscow against Napoleon and a hell of a privilege Google enjoy with their monopoly.

I’ve seen people opt for chatGPT/AI precisely because it’s clean, simple and spam free, because it isn’t Google Search.

And as @caseynewton said … the web is now in managed decline.

For those of us who like it, it’s up to us to build what we need for ourselves. Big tech has moved on

@nickwitha_k

And yet when chatGPT and Dall-e come out everyone drops their shit ready to presume the great all-knowing AI godhead has arrived. Why? Well it suits them as consumers, and that was my point.

I don’t know modern music well enough but it’d be interesting to compare to the weird state music technology has gotten to with synthesisers and digital tooling having completely matured now to the point where a laptop can replace a studio. Anyone advertise “no digital” like Jack White did?

@nickwitha_k balancing things for sure, that’s just craft. But where you lose me is that talking about how CGI is done, how good examples of it are done, and why … is just not mainstream.

Crashing a plane into a building? … everyone wants to talk about it. But no one ATM seems to want to know about all the awesome shit CGI is doing. Bad examples sure, they exist for all aspects of film. Instead people are lying about how much CGI they’re using, when getting it right could be celebrated.

@jonnix @politics

Interesting. How could congress ever enforce this under 14A,s5?

@barney @politics

Yep that so makes sense to me now. Thanks! Seems like a petty bad decision then.

@barney @politics

Sorry, just read 14A, sec 5:

> The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The decision seems pretty predictable to me then.

In fact it seems that this was never going anywhere and that the provisions are actually pretty weak. If an insurrectionist is popular enough to be a plausible presidential candidate, then they’re not unlikely to have significant support in congress.

@barney @politics

Were there not conversations at the time about how 14A would have been enforced? None of the issues around that are new and would have been obvious at the time.

@barney @politics

Who should enforce it then? Seems like exactly the sort of thing a court wouldn’t want to touch so as not to look too political, no?

Unless there’s no way around the fact that the 14th effectively creates a “constitutional crime” within federal courts’ jurisdiction that can be pardoned by a congress super majority, which would have been my intuitive reading.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars

In pretty central … all of them except I think a gas station.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars hmm I was wrong. That got boosted just fine. And created a new post on fuck cars. Embarrassing.

It was because the posts were unlisted it seems. And this too … confusing.

Sorry for the noise. May delete.

Still not sure why your previous posts were t boosted or appearing on fuck_cars. Because others where also addressed?