What are you talking about? FFS can no one on this site just actually talk like a human? I’m not trying to ‘own’ you or something

I don’t think they should do that but if they really believed he was Hitler 2.0 why wouldn’t they? They have no problem killing people everyday.

I don’t think we should lose faith in people, that’s what all those in power want. The American people are constantly propagandized, most people can’t trust what information is true or false especially when it comes to politics. I just think all the blaming of average progressive voters I’ve seen is misplaced.

There was no way for these sham elections to be a ‘win’ for anyone but fascists and corporations. I am just impressed so many people believe that leftists actually had enough sway to tank Kamala’s campaign.

How do you know Kamala’s winning would even be better for vulnerable people? Roe v Wade was nullified under the administration she was a key part of. On trans rights she said she would ‘follow the law’. We would have the most ‘lethal military’ and a stronger border. They have sent billions in defiance of international law to support groups committing genocide.

And how many people voted for Kamala in her primary to earn the nomination? To protect democracy from Trump apparently we had to forego democracy.

This thinking is a small minority of thought among voters. Thank you for believing us leftists are such a powerful bloc though. I can’t move to protect myself and many others can’t, I’m glad you are privileged enough to escape. If the democrat establishment actually believed Trump was such a major threat to democracy and life why wouldn’t they do more to stop it? They can use the national security state to kill whoever worldwide, couldn’t they have said Trump was a threat to national security?

It represents a large portion, but progressive policies are widely popular. Even in states Trump won there were votes passed to protect abortion access and increase minimum wage.

Most people vote based on vibes, and there were no progressive or positive vibes put forward by the dems this campaign. They signaled a ‘lethal military’, tighter borders, and sought endorsements from prominent Republicans, trying to win votes that would never go to their party anyway, alienating anyone who might have believed in the genuineness of the dems as ‘progressives’.

They are still evil though, why it always a choice of “evil vs evil”? We don’t have to have this electoral system, we don’t have to have these candidates, humanity can do so much better. The only way anyone against genocide or the corporatist status quo could show disagreement is by not voting. If democrats always have the lefts vote no matter what, then they wouldn’t even have to be lesser evil.

Yeah fuck all extremists, “I want all people to have healthcare and housing” vs “I want to eradicate non-white people” are the same

Obama sucks, Biden sucks, all establishment politicians including Trump don’t give a fuck about you. He calls his supporters idiots, he has said he doesn’t believe what he says to people but just says the things that his base wants to hear, like a TV entertainer, because that is his primary skill. He believes in nothing, and Kamala isn’t really better.

It’s possible to support people and actions that actually do help us all, there are many ways to help the country besides supporting sham politicians, who will do nothing to help us, will line the pockets of the wealthy and send more young people into endless wars.

Why do you think billionaires and CEOs love Trump? Because they know he will increase their profits, and he already has. This money comes from the lower class. The rich support the Dems too because they aren’t much better if at all when it comes to corporate greed and theft of the people.

We’re going to eat your children obviously

What are you on about? As a mainliner hexer we would be happy to see Trump not living, just look at the response when he was shot or got covid.

The ‘most progressive party’?? By what measure? Because they aren’t as openly fascist as the Republicans? Kamala has sworn to appoint at least one Republican, to be tough on crime, increase the strength of the military, be as or more anti-immigration than Trump, has shown no interest in healthcare reform, and refused to even consider ceasing the arming of genocidaires. What does it mean to be progressive to you?

Netenyahu himself defended the actions of the imprisoned soldiers, saying anything can be done to detainees without restrictions because they are “terrorists”.

You can’t trust the FBI and US officials

This is true though, but I don’t see any reason they would lie about this

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Why? Because he won before? There’s not a single other person that could run? If this is the case we already have no democracy, let whoever win, it’s all fucked.

Not to mention numerous Black Panthers, civil rights leaders, many others killed. The state knows that assassination can work.

People often talk about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. By all measures Trump would like to be a new Hitler and his most fervent supporters see him as that. Is it surprising people would support such an action to stop him?

And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said “dang, it’s too bad they missed.” Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.

It’s not an ‘idea’, there is hard data showing the numbers of people deported. Trump hates immigrants too though, I’m not saying either one is better or worse on immigration. How am I intending to post pro-Biden rhetoric? Biden is a genociding racist that should be charged with war crimes.

It is one of America’s ideals to help people everywhere find a better life and live the ‘American dream.’ You don’t support this patriotic ideal? Thousands of refugees from the endless global wars that the US helps initiate come to our borders to find salvation. I gladly pay taxes to help needy immigrants because that is supposedly one of the foundational elements of ‘America’.

But we are ruled by the wealthy who trick average people to be mad at immigrants instead of wage theft, wealth redistribution, unchecked global atrocities and war crimes done in the name profit, Raytheon et al and the military-industrial complex. I have been to the border, my friends and family have a lot of experience in border towns and there is no dangerous immigrant invasion going on like portrayed by the media. And what open borders? Biden has deported more people than Trump.