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  • zeezee@slrpnk.netOPtoMemes@lemmy.mlyea...
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    denied was implied by comparing musk’s salute to that of the pope waving his arm - but fair, she didn’t outright say it

    still the timing is most definitely not coincidental - but I can see how that can seem that way if you didn’t browse xitter when it happened


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    28 days ago

    her tweet was made a day after musk’s salute and consequent “funny” nazi puns - alongside posts denying the salute as sincere, therefore enabling nazi normalization

    the issue isn’t if JK is a swastika waving nazi - she most likely isn’t - the issue is she’s siding with fascists because they share the same hateful rhetoric and is willing to defend and normalize their behavior because she sees them as allies and the “woke leftists” as the enemy.


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    we couldn’t agree on an illustrator. He wanted Eva Braun, but the sample sketches he showed me were shit.

    If he wanted Eva Braun to be the illustrator why would he show JK his own sketches and not hers? Why even mention Eva at that point?

    Idk but imma head out as I don’t have the energy to dissect a poorly written attempt at a joke by a known nazi apologist…


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    28 days ago

    I mean Eva Braun was a photographer so not sure why her sketches would have been good? But I guess she was trying to shoehorn hitler being a bad artist but just didn’t know how to tie it in?

    Call be old-fashioned but I prefer my jokes to be funny because they’re clever not because “haha hitler couldn’t draw amirite”







  • Sure maybe they came off a bit snobby but I still don’t necessarily agree with your stance either - veganism isn’t “all about eating” - it’s a moral framework that rejects animal commodification - like my earlier example of not wearing leather or going to the zoo.

    This extends to all sort of stuff - having pets, keeping bees, sheering sheep, testing on animals, etc.

    Just as Islam is “more than diet choices,” veganism is far more than just a diet. The dairy farmer’s use of “vegan” would be like the pig farmer’s use of “Muslim” - both incorrectly reduce comprehensive philosophical/ethical frameworks to just their dietary components.

    But yeah w/e sometimes it’s easier to use the wrong term to convey an idea - which is why I still appreciate @[email protected]’s effort to clarify that here so other people can learn as well.

    Tho I see we can continue this argument forever so I’m gonna dip out as I’ve got other stuff to get on with.


  • Idk to me it seemed like @[email protected] was just trying to explain the difference between vegan and plant-based - hence “I don’t expect a dairy farmer to know better, but of course he means “plant-based”, not “vegan”. “Plant-based” is a functional description, while “vegan” is a set of moral values and their ethical consequences.”

    “Since the farmer is talking about the outcome as opposed to the justification is there anything functionally different between ‘plant-based’ and “vegan” here? As in would the diet of the vegan and someone eating only ‘plant based’ look different in any way?”

    So by your logic if he was a pig farmer instead and said “In the future everybody would be Muslim because we wouldn’t be able to grow pigs” - you’d say that’s splitting hairs since the outcome is functionally the same?


  • I feel you’re intentionally trying to misunderstand the argument.

    Veganism is specifically about the moral implications of commodifying animals - plant-based is about consuming plants - so while all vegans are plant-based not all plant-based folk are vegan.

    In really simple terms:

    Imagine two kids who don’t eat ice cream:

    The first kid doesn’t eat ice cream because they really love cows and don’t want them to be used to make milk for ice cream. This kid also won’t wear leather shoes or go to the zoo because they don’t want any animals to be used by people. This is like being vegan.

    The second kid doesn’t eat ice cream just because the ice cream store closed down and there’s no ice cream to buy anymore. This kid would still eat ice cream if they could get it, and they’re fine wearing leather shoes or going to the zoo. This is like being plant-based because of economics (what the farmer was talking about).

    So even though both kids end up not eating ice cream, they’re doing it for very different reasons. That’s what @[email protected] was saying - the farmer was talking about a future where people would eat plant-based food because animal products would be too expensive to make, not because everyone suddenly decided to become vegan and care about animals.




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    Calling it simplified does a disservice of the real world impacts of the “trolley” - especially since unlike a thought experiment - this trolley problem is physically constructed by people to achieve imperialistic goals - so expending energy blaming random lemmings for this - instead of figuring out who built, maintains and presents the trolley as the only option and how to dismantle it seems useless.

    I believe we should avoid infighting and actually organize to do something so we don’t have to choose if we pull the lever or not every 4 years (if there even is another election…)