• Mac@mander.xyz
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    4 months ago

    Reminder: only run if what you’re doing is already a felony. Running itself is a felony.
    Just eat the misdemeanor unless you’re 100% certain you’ll get away.

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    4 months ago

    In Finland we have a saying that someone has “Vatasen jalat, mutta omat kädet” which translates to “Vatanen’s feet but their own hands.”

    Ari Vatanen is a Finnish rally legend.

    So in other words: it’s not the car, it’s the driver. Anyone can drive fast but that doesn’t matter if you can’t keep the car on the road.

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      3 months ago

      Is it common in Finnish for proper name spelling to be altered like that? “Vatasen”/Vatanen

      Finnish is probably my favourite foreign (to me) language. The Finnish accent in English just captures my attention for some reason. Also love how unique it is on paper. Just super cool. There’s a lot to admire about Finns and Finland in general. I’d really like to take a trip out to Oulu and jist ride a bike everywhere.

      Ari Vatanen was a badass too. I wish my country had rally heritage like that.

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        3 months ago

        Yeah perfectly normal. Vatasen = Vatanen’s, Vataselle = to Vatanen, Vataselta = from Vatanen, Vatasessa = in Vatanen, and so on.

        It’s a flexible language. I don’t envy the ones trying to learn it.

  • blargh513@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Assuming we are in the US with this question. We will also have to assume that the driver is skilled and not a clot with two ham fists.

    You probably should consider what a police chase will entail and the tactics they will use to stop you to get to a good answer.

    Many police chases are stopped with the pursuit vehicle catches up and can PIT the fleeing car. Also, the police can use stop sticks to destroy/flatten tires of a runner. They have radio and multiple units, they will eventually bring a helicopter in if available.

    Given that, you have a few requirements. You could go for straight speed. If you go fast enough, they won’t be able to catch up to PIT you. However, you cannot count on having clear room to run. Traffic, pedestrians, obstacles will be in your path at every point, so your car of choice should be fast enough to get away, but it should not be the only means of escape.

    Most police cars in the US are Ford Explorers, some Dodge Chargers (though fewer and fewer), and a scatter of other things. You have to anticipate that they will be able to pursue quickly and sustain damage of their own as they will have things like push bars to absorb some impact. Your defense against a PIT is twofold: first, you do everything in your power to stay away using tactics like brake checking to foil their positioning for a push, constant movement and leverage other cars to act as obstacles. The other portion can be weight and suspension. If a cop were to get behind a Corvette and push, the hard suspension would flex little and the rear would be easily pushed given the relative light weight of the car. If you were in something like a lifted 4x4, now you go too far the other way. A push would upset the tall suspension and high center of gravity and could well end in a rollover even if not a successful PIT. You need the middle ground; something like a non-lifted full sized truck or SUV. Think Silverado or Tahoe. Enough weigh that the cop would have to go really hard at you to get the weight shifted, enough suspension travel that it would lean into a push, but not tip over as easily as something tall.

    The big dogs won’t be able to move quite as fast as something zippier, but there is a practical limit to how much speed you really need. Rapid acceleration won’t really solve a lot of problems, your pursuers will eventually catch up once you hit a traffic tangle or obstacle. Being able to go around a corner fast is good, but is it enough to get you away? Being small also means more vulnerable and also a smaller fuel carrying capacity. You don’t want to run out of gas, that would be embarrassing. A full sized truck/suv will also blend in better if you were able to escape the sightline and that really is going to be important.

    If you think you’re going to run and run, you’re eventually just going to get more units looking out for you, more pursuers and worst of all, a helicopter that you will not be outrunning. Your objective with the chosen vehicle would be to escape line of sight and then hide in plain sight. Take your truck/suv and park at a Home Depot or Lowes. If you are really wily, find something that’s reasonably similar and swap license plates with it. Go in, buy some lumber, throw it in and leave like you’re in no hurry.

    The other option is to find a parking garage, dip in and leave. Assuming the vehicle is not registered to you or traceable back to you, you’re golden. In fact, put a small motorcycle in the back of the truck. Park in garage, leave on motorcycle or scooter at a modest pace.

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      3 months ago

      Agreed. Depending on the offence you committed and where you are, the cops might give up the chase rather than risk you killing innocent bystanders or yourself, because it’s not worth the risk.

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      4 months ago

      Yep. Can get a 600cc sport bike for not much. Of course, you also have, like, a 50% chance of death if you try to outrun the cops on it.

      Otoh, iirc the cops in my area just have a standing order to not chase bikes that run. Too much chance of someone getting dead, which is more paperwork and bad pr than they want to deal with.

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      Not always true, but outrunning the helicopter is damn close to not doable.

      Still agree with the motorcycle.

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        3 months ago

        Outrunning the chopper is more about endurance. Or its a lotus carlton and it just… leaves the chopper behind and disappears into the night.

        40RA was one of the most prolific getaway cars in britain.

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      4 months ago

      It’s got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it’s got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It’s a model made before catalytic converters so it’ll run good on regular gas.

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    3 months ago

    Old school Subaru Forester XT. Will outrun most police vehicles And can go nuts off road.

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    3 months ago

    Renault Clio with diesel engine, you wouldn’t outrun anyone but you will create big smoke and poof dissapear like magician.

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    4 months ago

    I had a 1987 Chevy Caprice Classic 5.0L V8. The thing was a tank.

    Go ahead and try to pit me, I dare you.

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      I too owned a 1987 Caprice Classic. It was my first car but it was already probably 15 years old when I got it. Not sure if they offered it with different engine options, but it was indeed a tank. We called it the boat.

      E: I just looked back, and I had a 1990 Caprice Classic, not the 87. Still, a tank.

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        Ah, then you had one with a working transmission! Chevy evidently tried something new for their 1986-1988 V8 engines and it wasn’t good.

        I replaced the transmission in my behemoth twice before giving up on it.

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    4 months ago

    Drug running gangs in France steal Audis and Mini Cooper Sports to drive to the netherlands with the strategy of “outrun them if they catch on” and they seem pretty successful so something like that?