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For those confused, the concern of most of us is not that free palestine is an antisemitic statement, it is unequivocally not. The antisemitic part is thinking that because someone is jewish (ordering a kosher meal) that they need to be harassed and told “free palestine” let alone made to question the safety of their food.
Why do you think that the flight crew knew that the passenger was Jewish?
because you have to ask for a kosher meal specifically.
Are only jewish people allowed to ask for kosher meals?
That feels like the type of nuance that a person who would assume that Jewish-person = support-for-Israel’s-genocide would not have the forethought of.
The details are lacking, if this is on everyones meals, then that’s ok in my books, if it only targets Jewish people then there is a problems
https://liveandletsfly.com/free-palestine-iberia-kosher-meal/ It was on other kosher meals, it does not technically say it wasn’t also on other non-kosher meals. I think it’s a reasonable assumption though.
Hold on a second. That articles from August 6th. The post is from August 20th. Something is clearly not right here.
People post links to things weeks after the fact on Twitter all the time; that’s pretty benign.
If you are eating any type of meal and you receive a note saying free Palestine and you are offended? 🖕
The offense is not at the message, it’s that they were targeted to have it delivered.
This is a genocide being committed right now and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli, and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow offensive because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?
What are you talking about?
Idk sounds pretty racist to give a guy ordering kungpao chicken a “Free Uyghurs” note.
I guess I disagree.
I wouldn’t give people notes like this I don’t think. But I don’t think it is racist. Supporting Israel is more racist than this.
Supporting Israel is more racist than this.
Okay.
Guess I should start vocally denouncing the CCP and their Uyghur genocide before I get myself a Malatang.
Or just stop trying to find excuses to support the terrorist genocidal Israelis. It’s not hard.
and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli
buddy you’re doing that anyway. Conflating Israelis with Jews is wrong, yes. Targeting Jews to try and send a message to Israeli is wrong, yes. I know you feel like anything you like is justified since you believe in The Right Thing, but doing bad things for a good reason is still bad.
and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?
oh wow you’re incoherent with indignation, what a surprise. Why are you wasting time? There’s a genocide RIGHT NOW
I guess I don’t care if they are offended?
Or if you are offended?
Because there is a genocide happening, being committed by the Israeli government.
You’re so brave
Aren’t the Palestinians Semites?
While yes, the specific term “anti-Semitism” was popularized by the German journalist Wilhelm Marr as an alternative to the (at the time) more common phrase Judenhaß (e.g. Jew-hatred).
Basically, he wanted a more scientific-sounding term that made it sound less like plain hatred of other people but made it seem like the supposed deficiencies of Jewish people was a byproduct of their race rather than belonging to Jewish individuals.
His use of semitism/semitic as only referring to Jewish people rather than the broader group of peoples the terms had, originally, been coined for was also in line with other Germans of both his era and the previous century (and certainly into the next century as the Nazis used these reasonings to back their more developed “race” science and world-view).
That targeting has often been retained by the word even as it’s outgrown its original prejudiced purpose.
Beging anti Israel is not the same as antijew…
One thing is Antisemite, the other is pro himan rights.
Edit: since my comment sended mixed messages… I am totally against the Person who did it… Just because they ordered kosher meal, does not mean, that the Person is pro israeal / against palestina. And yeah i think Too we need To free palestina from hamas and genocidal people.
But the thing with the food was a dick move.
Edit2: fixed typos from my dann Smartphone, since i didnt set up the english words on my keyboard
Hi, Jew here. Allow me to demonstrate your stance.
Fuck Israel’s genocidal campaign and everyone who supports it.
FIN
Guys, it is apparently a ‘severe antisemitic act’.
I mean, what can be more antisemitic than that treacherous food labelling as a country?
One of Israel’s goals is to equate Judaism with the state of Israel. Whilst I respect the intention of whoever wrote that note, they also are unwittingly playing into Israel’s agenda.
There are many anti-zionist Jews, many of whom are some of the loudest voices pushing back against Israel. Let’s be mindful of who our enemy actually is, because it is not the Jewish people
You made an excellent point, although it is missing a critical fact. Not that passengers are jewish, but that they are (probably) from Israel.
Forget about the media always highligting semitism. Criticism is directed to citizens who pay taxes fueling genocide. Nothing to do with semitism.
Not that passengers are jewish, but that they are (probably) from Israel.
Which article had you seen that indicated the passengers on the Buenos Aires to Madrid flight who’d asked for kosher meals were probably from Israel?
Boo hoo, somebody has a wake up call. Because this isnt antisemitic this is targeted. It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation, a smaller (but still majority) percentage of people either implicitly or explicitly supports the genocide.
I know this because im acturally Jewish, ive acturally seen the occupation with my own eyes, ive spoken to more Zionists than I could possibly count, and I know that there are few fellow Jews like me.
It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation
Even if this were true, it would still be wrong to target a random Jewish person for your message about Israel. Members of a class should not be treated differently because of that class, even if the concerns of the wider class are valid. That is literally prejudice. Pre-judicial thinking, you are judging them early.
Well, if they wouldn’t be zios, they’d hardly be offended though.
