• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      When are adults starving through their own fault?

      It’s just something to add emphasis, no need to nitpick.

  • ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world
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    I would love (well…not really “love”) to see the rest of that tweet as I expect them to say something along the lines of “…but I still love you and believe in you and how much you love America yadda yadda”…

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    I get all of the comments here. I understand the anger and distain that so many of you are feeling over the current state of things. I share in many of the frustrations and anger.

    But it depresses me that Trump won’t run for office again. He will be replaced by someone and the entire pool of former Trumpers will see that person and think that they can do all the things they hoped that Trump would do.

    Even if Trump exits office without doing any further significant harm, the people who have made these kinds of revelations, like in the OP, will probably still vote for the same party, in spite of it all. Sure, they may never vote for Trump again, but they’ll never get the chance to anyways, so who cares?

    This was calculated.

    Don’t be surprised if the next candidate follows the same playbook as Trump, and don’t be surprised if the MAGA crowd falls for it again.

    The only way forward, to ensure that this kind of damage is stopped, is to rally together in sufficient numbers to ensure that these folks don’t get into office any more. The absentee voters need to get out and vote.

    I am confident that the numbers would work out if we could get enough people to the voting booth.

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    Maybe all of you on Lemmy see this and sigh, but there’s a lot of MAGA supporters out there who might need to see this.

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      They would most likely claim this is dem fake news and/or put the responsibility of her demise on her.

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    When someone leaves a cult, ya got two choices. Accept them or reject them. If you reject them they’ll just run straight to another cult

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      She voted 3 times for a racist idiot. The last time she knew he was also a pedo.

      I may have missed some posts, but I didn’s see a word about deportations tearing apart families. She’s cool with that. She’s angry because Trump hurt the “wrong gmoups”. He was supposed to hurt only some other groups.

      Fortunately for me, I don’t live in the US, I am not a US citizen, and I don’t have to “accept her”.

      I bet she will rally behind the next guy promising to hurt “others”, but posing as anti-Trump because he hurt some “good” Americans.

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    I really don’t understand how these people manage to dilute themselves into believing he’d be any different to the first time he was in office.

    The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you all you need to know. She’s got no personality at all, she has one character trait, and it may not be all that interesting but nonetheless, her entire life revolves around it.

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      The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you

      …that the whole thing was probably never a real person posting their actual thoughts to begin with?

    • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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      Well they believed in the rationale and prescription for what he claimed to achieve so there’s a lot of scope there to forgive failure to meet targets because as they see it, there’s a mountain of opposition and sabotage standing in the way of making America great again so if what he said we was going to do didn’t happen and if the way he said he’d do it didn’t work it’s not really a challenge to either what Trump claims should be done nor how he should do it, it only highlights to supporters how difficult that task is and how strong their support needs to be.

      This kind of thing, one of the duped expressing regret - I think is probably one of the most effective ways of bursting the MAGA bubble and letting at least a tiny bit or reality set in. It doesn’t challenge the things the supporters think are wrong with their country nor directly challenge the methods for remedying it, but it would introduce that little kernel of doubt for at least a few people without coming from “libtards” or in some way seeming to criticise the beliefs that led them to their current situation. She’d be dismissed of course; a paid shill no doubt, or a crisis actor or just a traitorous member of the flock who didn’t have the faith or conviction necessary, but if this kind of thing shows up a lot and gets loud enough it might stand more of a chance than any critique of MAGA or Trump if there ever was really any hope of such processes having meaningful impact.

      That said, even if that worked, it’d do little to address systemic issues that gave rise to MAGA and in any case if the MAGA cultists take this gentle out without need to re-evaluate the thinking that got them there then really it’d just end up being that Trump was only bad for failing to do what he promised not because what he promised was reprehensible and how he planned to do it absurd and illogical so they’ll be prime for the picking for the next Trump hydra head to take his place.

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    Our little victim doesn’t even know basic vocabulary. This was not “gaslighting”. It was plain old “lying”. Simple, easy to spot, as long as you try.

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        While it isn’t the full motive for the shutdown, part of the motive is likely avoiding release of the Epstine files. Currently, only one more “yes” vote is required in the House of Representatives to pass a resolution calling for the release of the files. There is a new member of the House who was elected in Arizona but she hasn’t been sworn in yet. The Speaker of the House has been delaying swearing her in for two months and has essentially shut down the House to avoid the issue. In the mean time, this means that the House is doing literally nothing to end the ongoing government shutdown.

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          The house isn’t the hold up in the shutdown, but the rest is accurate. House can’t help end the shutdown until the filibuster in the Senate ends. But there’s other things, like committee investigations, they could be doing.

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            They’re also holding up shutdown negotiations by not passing anything new that the senate can work with. They’re basically saying “do a clean CR or nothing”.

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      Pretty sure this is fake. People who don’t think so have way way more faith in these idiots than I do. The ones who do not starve to death will be voting for him in the next election.