• chunes@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Are aircraft carriers even relevant anymore? In the age of drones, they seem useful only against enemies who don’t hit back.

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      After WW2 carriers weren’t checked in peer warfare and were mostly used by US for gunboat diplomacy racket. Few years ago USA conducted wargames which conclusion was that carriers are vulnerable to hypersonic missiles. And some more years before Swedish diesel sub managed to “sink” carrier during NATO maneuvers.

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          Most likely not, gun boats tend to be pretty damn tough and drones aren’t actually fast or powerful. In fact I’d argue that drones are probably a terrible weapon against a carrier. They’re vulnerable to hypersonic missiles because the missiles can move faster that the boat can shoot them down. Drones are good at being small, quiet, maneuverable, cheap, easy to use, and easy to deploy. None of those things are useful against an aircraft carrier. They have very very broad area of effect anti missile systems and are made of pure armor.

          On the other hand they could probably be used to deploy the world’s largest drone swarm quickly anywhere in the world from a well defended position. I don’t think they’re useless yet…

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      Its more hypersonic missiles that have made them obsolete, as of many years ago now. If the US were in an actual war with a country who has them (China, Russia), its entire carrier fleet would be destroyed within a few hours. US military planners even admit this openly.

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      3 months ago

      Aircrafts also become amazingly useless when your enemy hits your refuelling planes and you are in a fix now because those were all you had and you stopped making them 50 yrs ago.

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      3 months ago

      What about Uruguay? The country canceled tgier charter flight and told the team to fly commercial home…now THAT is salty.

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    3 months ago

    Aircraft carriers are cool and a feat of modern engineering and technology. I have literally no idea what they have to do with getting speed bagged for 90’ in front of the whole planet, though.

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    3 months ago

    How exactly is one moron’s tweet “US news and politics?” I think a lot of people in the thread need to get a life.

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    3 months ago

    Americans can’t possess small dick energy. To possess small dick energy you must be insecure about having a small dick. To be insecure you must know you have small dick. For that you need to see your dick. And americans are usually too fat for that.

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    3 months ago

    Everybody in Europe makes jokes on behalf of the US.

    They are no more than toddlers with big guns that love to shoot everybody. No matter if friend or foe.

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    3 months ago

    Dude’s got a point though. Y’all do make a super big deal about grown-ass adults playing a children’s game.

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      3 months ago

      With how popular US high school sports are (literally kids playing games), I don’t think that’s as good of an argument as you think it is.

      Reading comprehension of a twelve year old, lol. I think that was the point you were making too…

      Uhh, adults playing sports in the US are pretty popular too! (totally saved it)

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      Dude would have a point if they would not “counteract” grown-ass adults playing a children’s game with an even worse case of it.

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      I think you misinterpret the tweet then. Such childish behaviour as “We hAvE aIrCraft CarrIEr nUhUh” doesn’t exactly say “we don’t care.” It just screams “I am a sore loser.” I absolutely agree with the rest of your statement, though. It is wild to me how many people care about a bunch of millionaires running after a ball. Or running circles. Or driving cars. Or hitting balls across a net. Or throwing a ball. Etc. It is absolutely fine to enjoy doing those things, but the whole show and dance around it is just ridiculous.

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        I interpreted it just fine. And you interpreted me just fine. Apparently a rare skill indeed.

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        I take it back. I did misinterpret the tweet a little bit. Dude CLEARLY makes a big deal out of grown-ups playing children’s games.

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      3 months ago

      All games are children’s games. People use “growing up” as a reason to quit when in reality we get too old to play to win.

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      What even is a children’s game? A game that can be played by children? That’s almost every game, even games with pointy or heavy things have child-safe versions

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        Its just a cultural thing. In the US, children play just about every sport, but once kids get to high school, soccer falls off the map and everyone migrates over to American football and basketball. I think they just mean that generally speaking only children play soccer in the US. It’s of course not true, there are high school teams and lots of tech leagues, but it is true that hardly anyone who is not a child plays in the US.

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              3 months ago

              I don’t like cricket either, but you won’t catch me getting all of India upset by shitting on it.

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                3 months ago

                I really have no idea who Ed K is in the post but he doesn’t speak for all americans, and he is probably MAG so he probably shits on everything.

                For the record I think it’s fun to play. I dont particularly like watching it but then again I find watching most sports boring.

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      Seriously dude, time to learn the difference. Playing children’s games is fine and nothing to be upset about.

      Having a president who played with children in a very disturbing way and is going to the lengths of cheating himself into the highest office to avoid accountability, perhaps, maybe, you should get really upset about that.

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        Would you like to make a big deal out of me playing children’s games? Perhaps you’d like to place a bet on the Maximals winning this week. Lord help you if you’re wrong and have to show your face at work tomorrow. Don’t forget to wear your Maximals t-shirt while my play session is televised. I’ve sunk billions of dollars into my toys. I only hire the most competent friends to come over and play with me. I apologize if I make a mistake and ruin your entire day.

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          I have no problem with adults playing with toys or kids games. In my opinion do what makes you happy and be happy as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.

          I’m just pointing out that you are an unserious hypocrite.

          No idea what a maximal is and frankly don’t care.

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            Cutting all the snarkiness: I also have zero issue with adults playing kids games. My point was about the insane proportions to which professional sports are blown.

            I also want to add that when you disagree with someone, going into their post history to find some personal attack to make against them is both lousy strategy and douchey. Even if I am a hypocrite, your goal should be to attack my opinion, not me.

            And yes, I am also a douche for criticizing how people spend their spare time.

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              It is neither lousy nor douchey to use someone’s public words against them.

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              Using someone’s past to show they’re a hypocrite isn’t wrong—it’s just called accountability, which clearly you aren’t used to. It’s kinda hilarious you actually typed that out, looked at it, and still hit send. 🤣 At least we can agree on one thing: you are definitely a douche.

              Roll out now Hypocriticus Prime, you ain’t worth typing any further 🫳🎤

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      Before world cup:

      “We don’t even care about soccer”

      During:

      “USA is the best soccer playing nation. Look at how scared everyone is. LMAO”

      After losing despite cheating:

      “We don’t even care about soccer and look at our orphan crushing machine, do you even have one?”

      What sore loser mentality.

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      3 months ago

      Yes the grown up americans like wrestling, some dudes in spandex and their little gimmicks.
      Cringe AF

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        I think its that all sports are ultimately inconsequential entertainment people get way too serious about.

        Unlike war profiteering, which is a very important contribution.

        People should be proud of how many children the can kill directly and indirectly through military action, proxy wars, and allocation of lifesaving funds to the military industrial complex.