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My view is transracial isn’t valid and this person is trying to dogwhistle. I’ve already blocked this person, and now they’re going after my friend saying my friend is transphobic because they disagreed with them about transracial being a thing (they’re purposefully leaving the context out so my friend looks transphobic when what my friend really said was transgender is valid but transracial isn’t)

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Transracial doesn’t exist because “Race” in the context that they want to use it doesn’t exist.

    Genetically there’s only one “race”; that’s the human race. If they want to identify as a different culture, it’s purely a cosmetic cultural thing, not biological or genetic. Whereas as being Transgender is biological. Therefore, you can safely tell people like Rachel Dolezal to fuck off and go back to fifth period science class.

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    3 months ago

    Race is an extremely unscientific way to catagorize human beings, and it’s no wonder these people claim to be trans racial instead of trans ethnic. The more scientific, cultural, and hereditary definition of ethnicity means they’d have no real arguement to claim an ethnicity they weren’t raised in and have no heritage from but the loose political definition of race gives them lots of wiggle room.

    Tldr: tell them race isnt real and ethnicity is based on the culture you were raised in and the heritage of your ancestors. You can’t force your ancestors to be a different ethnicity and you can transition a childhood upbringing, just an identity.

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      tell them race isnt real

      Regardless of culture/ethnicity: two asians have a baby, you get an asian baby.

      Regardless of culture/ethnicity: two slavs have a baby, you get a salvic baby.

      Race is most certainly real.

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        Slavs are not a race, but ethnic group.

        Two Koreans have a baby, the baby is Korean. Indian and Japanese have a baby, and you got something wildly different from either.

        Sure, a Black person looks different from White, but within both there is so much variation that it doesn’t make much sense to group them so roughly.

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          3 months ago

          tell them race isnt real

          This is the shit I was responding too. And rhetoric like that is painfully contrary to even elementary biology. If the best response to OP’s question is a demonstrably false statement like ‘race isn’t real’, well, that’s a very sad state of affairs.

          doesn’t make much sense to group them so roughly

          Just as I wouldn’t generally find it necessary to group people by eye color, the fact remains eye color is real. Same for other genetically determined things like race.

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        To quote the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on Race (human categorization):

        Modern science regards race as a social construct, an identity which is assigned based on rules made by society. While partly based on physical similarities within groups, race does not have an inherent physical or biological meaning.

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          3 months ago

          race does not have an inherent physical or biological meaning

          Physical traits are passed through genes onto kids, thus kids have much the same traits as their parents. Asian parents have asian kids. Why are we doing elementary biology here?

          This really isn’t the argument we should be latching onto.