Firefox is my web browser of choice. It does a lot of things right. In particular, with the uBlock Origin add-on, it’s got the best ad blocking you can get on desktop and Android. Firefox is run by…
  • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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    9 days ago

    if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

    same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

    if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

    • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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      8 days ago

      important addendum: your reason for advocating for shit browsers owned by terrible people will be read out loud in the clown voice it deserves

      • blakestacey@awful.systemsEnglish
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        8 days ago

        Lemmy needs a feature where we can click a button on a comment and make everyone see that comment in Comic Sans.

        • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Careful, don’t slander Comic Sans. It is an asshole, and has the party people on its side.

          (I also think the font gets too much flak, perhaps to really show our distaste of the comment make it the fraktur font, and flip it around (I did recently learn that flipping a front upside down/around makes it very hard to read for people who have trouble visualizing things in their head, which I had not thought about as being an issue)

        • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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          8 days ago

          so I’m not saying I’m writing this down for the Lemmy clone’s features list, but

          • nfultz@awful.systemsEnglish
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            7 days ago
            .comment-node :has(.text-danger) {
    font-family: "Comic Sans MS", "Comic Sans" ;
}

            Sorry (not sorry).

    • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Sorry but it’s not like there are many options here…

      Ladybird is not even alpha yet so of course it does not work… and if a 5 second clip of someone using Copilot is enough to rule out a browser, well there will no options left

      I too want a world where a decent programmer I would like to buy a beer for is coding a lovely browser with no AI and that respects my privacy, but alas, we live in this horrible world where asking for that seems to be too much.

      At the end of the day, if ladybird happens to work well (when finished), I will use that instead of Edge or Chrome… you need to grow up people or we will all get run over by the very people we are trying to oppose

  • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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    7 days ago

    Unrelated to the article/vid itself, thanks for making both a video, podcast, and an article. I know it is a lot of work, but I really appreciate being able to read it than having to watch a video.

    • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
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      9 days ago

      small typo.

      So guess what Mozilla did? When you update Firefox, tt re-enables the AI! And if you disable the AI again, it re-enables it again next update! Choose correctly, user!

      “tt” should “it”

  • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.caEnglish
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    9 days ago

    This feels a little sensational. While I’m disappointed the new CEO wants to waste time on it, as long as we can turn it odd its not terrible. And its still the only real competition to Chrome. All the forks still rely on Mozilla’s work, though I would love to see that situation improve.

    • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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      9 days ago

      after a decade+ of Mozilla dropping the ball on purpose and violating user consent, thank fuck we’ve got you! somebody needed to pointlessly restate the latter half of the video while carrying water for the millionaire CEO of a nonprofit grift and I certainly as fuck would rather fucking die

  • Seminar2250@awful.systemsEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I used Firefox for largely political reasons (summarized as “Google needs a competitor”), but it was becoming harder and harder to justify. Eventually, I just switched to a Chromium-based browser. I will say that, as an almost-good-enough solution until I wake up from this nightmare to a functioning Servo (🙏🙏🙏) , DNS level ad blocking (using Mullvad’s DNS servers) + uBlock Origin Lite (filtering mode set to “complete”) has been sufficient for me. It even blocks Spotify ads. I think it blocks YouTube ads as well, although I barely watch YouTube on my browser.

    Ungoogled Chromium supports MV2 extensions and seems like a good choice if Firefox becomes unusable or you get fed up. I use Trivalent, a security hardened Chromium-based browser, but it may be tough to install if you aren’t on Secureblue. Also it only supports MV3 extensions.

    this shit is so fucking frustrating, just leave our browsers alone. we want security updates, not an unethically sourced bullshit-and-vulnerability-generator stapled onto the biggest attack surface on our fucking machine

    • the_weez@midwest.socialEnglish
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      9 days ago

      Unfortunately I don’t think Servo is going to be a full browser anytime soon. They are working on a browser engine that others can embed into their applications. Presumably somebody could use that engine to build a browser, but I’m not aware of any projects working towards that right now. Personally I’m using FF with most of this crap disabled, holding out for Ladybird.

      • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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        9 days ago

        why are you holding out for a browser that the OP correctly calls out as being developed by a believer in white replacement conspiracy theories who also vibe codes his browser?

        actually don’t answer that, don’t fucking post here unless you’ve read the article

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Presumably, if Firefox version N breaks ad-blocking, someone can make a hard fork of version N-1. Security patches, upgrades to OS support and things like new CSS/HTML features can be cherry-picked or reimplemented to it, though Firefox updates in general will not be admitted, as it’s a hard fork (in the way that LibreOffice or MariaDB is). At worst, Firefox will actively make it hard to do this, closing their source or changing their licence to one which prohibits it, requiring any updates to be reimplemented clean-room style, which will slow things down, though if the alternative is actively enshittified, it’s the least-bad option.

    • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systemsEnglish
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      8 days ago

      The good news is it generally isn’t necessary to reverse engineer browser behavior when writing a browser. Since it’s mostly fairly standardized, there’s a decent test suite, and the major browsers are all open source.

      Though this comes with some caveats:

      • There are exceptions like the CSS viewport spec which was reverse engineered from an iphone.
      • There are a lot of specifications because browsers have been around for decades and Chromium keeps implementing stuff, and it can be hard to find enough programmers to write all of them / catch up from a fresh start
      • This is a somewhat unstable situation; if we lose even a single major browser engine it’s easy to imagine Chrome maybe not bothering with standardization and just telling people to read the blog posts and code.
      • Web pages will do nonsense like break themselves if you provide a User-Agent string they don’t like. Mozilla has an ongoing compatibility effort where they sometimes have to override the UA string for specific pages. So less popular browsers are already playing from a disadvantageous position.
    • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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      9 days ago

      tell us more about how you didn’t read the article or watch the video

      specifically tell us how you missed ladybird’s developer being a fascist who’s already vibe coding the worthless fucking thing

      actually no, maybe just don’t fucking post here

            • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPMEnglish
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              9 days ago

              uh have you tried xydfgq-blurble browser it’s my home brew fork of chromium and firefox i call it “chromefox” which is also my fursona

              thinking of changing the name to something lighthearted, marketable and non-objectionable like “GNU-Scrotum”

              i am the only maintainer and i keep up with 110% of security issues

              we are not in the android store as the oppressive statists at google said that if i ever switched on this uh “piece of shit” in a built up area theyd cut my nuts off, but

              ignore the FUD about chromefox spilling your bank account and leaking your tastes in hentai and fucking your cat it’s all LIES FILTHY LIES by THAT BITCH ANDREW he is SUCH an asshole

              anyway free software stallman was right peace out

              • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
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                8 days ago

                It would be even better if it were <classical element> <animal>. Unless we were to retcon throat as a classical element. I would not say no to that

    • Statick@programming.devEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I’m doing the same, and I gotta say, I’m really liking the small differences in the UI on both android and desktop.

      The popup menu on Android is way better.

      The customization for the tabs/highlights on desktop are great.

      Subtle differences, but I appreciate the options nonetheless.

  • jaschop@awful.systemsEnglish
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    9 days ago

    The era of useful Silicon Valley Non-Profits seems to be fizzling out. I wonder how long Signal is going to hold out…

    • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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      9 days ago

      from your profile and post history you appear to be, and I can’t believe I’m typing these words, a pro-Brave anti-Mozilla gimmick account. go the fuck outside.

    • jnod4@lemmy.caEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I’d choose to never use Internet again than use a chromium browser

  • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPMEnglish
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    8 days ago

    from the youtube browser comments, “Ladybird is our last hope” seems to be the new standard promotional cut’n’paste phrase

    last hope for what, you might ask? well the true anti-woke browser, which is much more important than actually, say, working.

    presumably brave is too SJW for these guys, as well as basically working insofar as it’s just a chrome reskin

    they want the TRUE GLORIOVS FVTVRE that only a nonexistent thing that doesn’t fucking work, and won’t cos the lead bozo is vibe coding it, can offer.

    in fashtech, promises of future glory always beat present day actually fucking working

    • Seminar2250@awful.systemsEnglish
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      9 days ago

      The least-worst of the Chrome reskins is Vivaldi, which has no AI. It has its own adblocker, but it’s not as good a blocker as FIrefox with uBlock Origin. And Vivaldi’s not open source. But they’re relatively non-evil.

    • Mii@awful.systemsEnglish
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      8 days ago

      As for Orion: while I like the idea of having a browser that’s neither Chromium nor Gecko in the mix, Orion is made by Kagi which, at least in the past, self-described as an AI company, so I’m not sure how much I trust their stance to keep slop machines out of it (spoiler: I don’t). Also their CEO seems like a bit of a twat.

      And it’s not really open source either apart from the WebKit parts as far as I know.

      • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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        8 days ago

        their absolute twat of a CEO is still running kagi as an AI company, and kagi fans get really weird when you bring it up