I had gas stoves my whole life until about 5 years ago I when I moved into this home I live in now that doesn’t have gas lines in the neighborhood. I have a glass top electric stove, not induction and after about a week of adjustment it suits my purposes just fine and I got used to it and it wasn’t a big deal at all. I cook pretty much every meal my family and I eat at home too with 0 issues.
I have cooked on gas, induction, infrared and the old style resistive elements. Currently I have a Wolf duel fuel range which is one of the best you can buy in the U.S. and I love it.
I’ll just come out and say it…
Gas has seen its day. I say that as a current gas cook top user.
A good quality induction cook top is fantastic. It gets a lot hotter faster than gas while also simmering better. Responsiveness is off the charts too, depending on how heavy your cookware is, which is gas’s major advantage over older electric cook tops. The only issue I personally have with induction is that cheaper units make a weird buzzing noise with some cookware and settings. I did get to cook on a Viking induction cook top a few times and did not notice that issue.
If you have a gas stove and can’t afford, or don’t want to switch to electric, keep a window open in the kitchen while you cook. This is especially important if your over-the-range hood does not vent to the outside (yes, that’s a thing.) If your hood does vent to the outside, turn it on every time you cook and you’re golden.
Yeah, I’m going to open a window every time I want to fry a couple of eggs or bake a loaf of bread at -25F/-32C.
Just how many hours a day do you think any stove is continuously on? That 3D printer you might own runs far, far longer.
If you don’t want to poison yourself with fumes, then yes.
Then you must only breathe the finest purified filtered canned air. And not the dirty polluted air in whatever big city you live in.
Where the fuck else can it vent to?
Through an activated charcoal filter and right back into your face.
This is depressingly common and functionally accomplishes just about as much as you expect it does.
Ohhh, thanks. With the right filter it can make sense but it will be far cheaper to just pipe it out.
Not just the right filter but a strong enough fan motor to draw air through it. The filter needs to be changed so at some point outside venting becomes cheaper.
The reality is most people never change the filter and rarely use the fan.
Another fuckass article trying to shift blame to the individual instead of holding gigantic corporations and tech giants responsible for making conditions so bad that even indoor air is polluted.
not… quite. these are research findings that what we’ve long suspected is true: gas stoves aren’t great for your indoor environment. the question you should really be asking isn’t “why are we saying this now” but “why is there so much pro-natural gas stove propaganda out there in the world when modern energy efficient electric stoves are just as good in the areas that gas excels in at a lower long term cost to the owner?”
what you’ll find is that it’s the gas companies who are pushing the narrative that gas is better and landlords not performing upgrades because they don’t cover their tenants’ utility bills so those upgrades cut into their exploitative profit models. so. yes, the problem is gigantic corporations and the capital class in general. but don’t shoot the messenger, especially when the messenger has brought you weaponry to arm yourself against a common enemy
Not everything is propaganda man, using that argument against people’s directly observed comparisons and preferences kinda undermines the whole idea. I’ve got panels on the roof and an electric chainsaw, propane is still the best fit for my stove. I’ve got wood, diesel, and electric heat, all of which have their season. It’s easy to get blindly optimistic about exciting new tech (electric cars are probably the biggest one here) but nothing is universally applicable and you need to have some faith that your fellow man is an intelligent, thinking being trying to navigate this world just like you
Every elective stove I’ve used has sucked for controlling the temperature. I’ll deal with a little air pollution to have my food actually come out how I want it. Maybe induction ones are better but those are expensive.
That’s a skill issue.
Honesty it is, I feel bad for anyone struggling with poor tools but once you really learn to cook, you can turn any source of heat into good cooking.
I lived for nearly a decade with a rusty old piece of shit from the 80’s, loose coils that only worked when you pressed down on one side, weird temperature controls that I eventually had to override, lots of problems to overcome. Did some of the best cooking of my life on that thing.
I think it might simply be a matter of getting used to it. For example, i can cook well enough with an electric (induction) furnace but it’s difficult for me to use a gas stove without burning my food.
Either gross incompetence or lack of proper pans is at cause. Electric stoves are perfectly fine.
Curious how taking 20 minutes for a pot of water to boil could be “gross incompetence”.
Try: putting it on the highest setting, Use less water (10+liter is a lot and can happen quickly in big pots), Plug it into 3 phase power Make sure to use the highest power section
In a lot of cases ceran cooktops have higher power delivery to the pot than gas. Also read the manual for how much power each burner has.
Yes, induction stoves are the solution. The way I went about it is I bought a secondhand hob for just $110. Works brilliantly, controls just as well as gas. As a bonus, pumping all the energy straight into the cookware makes it heat things up REAL fast.
Regular electric stove is very inert, making it straight up impossible to do a lot of stuff.
Never heard of these limitations. All I know is you can’t prep a tortilla the right way on gas stoves.
I lived for nearly a decade with an old stove with loose coils, did some of my best cooking in my life on that piece of rusted shit.
Seriously, give me a goddamn heat source and I will turn it into the finest shit you ever ate.
Bullshit
Staying indoors during rain can dramatically cut wetness.
you don’t say, captain obvious is on it again today
but i guess it’s nice that we now have quantitative data on it
I wish someone pointed this out 20 years ago (enough to be heard). I raised two kids with occasional asthma in a house with gas stove, and maybe that could have been different.
I recently converted from gas to induction, and find it a much better cooking appliance in every way. Pans on the stovetop heat up faster than with gas, and I can boil a pot of water faster. The oven has more options and more consistent heating, especially on the broiler.
The only problem was the cost. Way too much money to get a new circuit installed but also the range was double or more what I would have spent on gas. There were very few options at appliance stores, and I never did find one on display, of any brand. In the US, it’s unnecessarily difficult to make this switch.
When I was shopping for one I was told to pay attention to coil sizes. Sure enough experimenting with a large skillet on small coil shows very uneven heating. I did find one or two reasonable priced ranges but with only tiny coils. Even at spending way too much, I only have one coil that works well with 12” skillet or stock pot. I know ikea now sells an induction range for more reasonable price but coil size is critical and the first thing I’d look at
Having a proper exhaust hood that sucks air outside mitigates this to a huge degree, but a lot of us have hoods that “filter” the air through nothing and then shoot it up towards the ceiling.
The flippers who did my house disconnected the outside air vent, I’m still pissed and mean to get it fixed, cause I can’t afford an induction range either.
As a taller guy who wears glasses, I’ve had the horrible experience of some of these filters blowing greasy air in my face and settling on my glasses. Not pleasant
Mine has a vent, but no hood so there’s only so much it can do. And the way they built out the kitchen means there’s no good way to install a hood without remodelling.
But now I don’t care as much. The current vent (and window) is good enough for induction
If you think you can’t afford an induction range, you also can’t afford to hire contractors to have your new ductwork put in and/or unborked.
Much as I hate to recommend Frigidaire for various reasons, the FCFI3083AS is I think the most economical freestanding 30" induction range on the market at the moment and has an MSRP of $1099. You can probably score one from some discount or independent appliance retailers (i.e. not Home Depot, Lowes, or Best Buy) for a little under a thousand.
A lot of us
Everyone I know has a microwave. Is that a class thing?
It’s a failure to read the manual thing. Every OTR microwave ever manufactured functions as a hood by definition, and basically all of them (I can only think of like two exceptions) don’t have the option to be configured for either recirculation or to duct outside. It’s just that most models come out of the box already configured for recirculation and most people ('s contractors) are so averse to reading that they fail to realize you can flip the blower motor over and thus cause it to actually accomplish something (provided a duct is in place) rather than just blowing stale air back in your face.
The ducting behind a microwave is not that common in my experience. It makes sense for microwaves to come preconfigured to recirculate instead of trying to exhaust to a sheet of drywall because most people are going to install it how it comes out of the box. I’ve installed dozens of microwaves and only twice has ducting existed to flip the venting for. Higher end houses typically have dedicated exhaust fans and lower end houses never seem to have ducting for a microwave. I installed a dedicated fan that exhausts out the roof at my house. Even with ducting those microwave exhaust fans barely provide anything of value. I’m sure my experience is very regional but it seems like a really niche middle ground where someone would bother venting out of the kitchen but also not care enough to have a purpose built exhaust fan.
Part of the problem there is I have guys just absolutely insist at me that a microwave “can’t” be vented outside so they don’t bother to install a duct, and tell me that in order to vent outside you “have” to get a hood instead. This is obviously bogus.
This also leads to the inevitable Contractor Special where a duct was there, often when the user is replacing an old hood with a microwave, but the installer just shrugs and slaps the microwave on the wall as-is where A) it is inevitably too tall and now way too close to the stovetop, and B) covering the duct outlet while still recirculating back into the room. Whenever I unearth one of these in my travels it makes me want to track down whoever the hell installed it and then punch them so hard they come clean out of their socks.
People are for some reason hyperfixated on getting appliances off of their countertops, which is why the over-the-range microwaves became so prevalent in the first place. (And then they all immediately filled the spot where their countertop microwave used to be with a countertop air fryer instead, but that’s a whole different discussion.)
Yeah that would drive me insane to run across. It’s not even particularly hard to tell that the exhaust fan motor is reversible just by looking at the top/back of the microwave before it is installed. Every one I’ve seen looks pretty damn modular in comparison to the rest of the microwave shell.
Edit: reversible is the wrong word, able to be unscrewed and rotated, I’m sure you know what I meant but on a reread of my comment I wanted to clarify.
I have gas and would fight anyone who tries to tell me otherwise. I rented a place with an induction range and now I want one so bad.
I’m suprised there are developed countries were gas stoves still are used, unless power is non-existant or in low quantity due to poor grid or fully off-grid.
What’s even more sad is that in the USA it’s seen as woke to give up your gas stove.
Well because it is woke. And that’s a good thing. Acknowledging that gas stoves cause indoor pollution is woke as fuck.
So sick and tired of “woke” being used as a negative term, because the republicans labeled it as such. They hate it so much because they hate change, even if it’s positive change for the betterment of society.
Stay safe. Stay woke.
it’s like they consider asthma a badge of pride.
these fucks are making their kids suffer, again, for their silly stupid ideas
I just like being able to put tortillas directly on the flame burner.
Growing up we usedgas. Mother’s home (not our childhood home) also has gas. I’m in a home that is wired for either but had electric when I moved in. We had to replace the stove and I choose to keep it electric which surprised my mom. “But gas baking is so much nicer!” And no it’s not. Electric interior was much easier and nicer to use. But she didn’t bake much so lol.
gas baking is so much nicer!
This is odd to me, as someone who has owned both gas and electric. Baking is pretty comparable between the two. Preheat oven, put in item for amount of time. Though, our gas oven’s exhaust would really heat up the kitchen, which was not so great in the summer.
Usually when people praise gas it’s about stovetop performance. As gas instantly changes temperature and lets you use things like woks. I have also heard people praise them for working in power outages just fine.
The glass top electrics are so damn easy to clean though. That alone has made them the winner for me. On the other side, every exposed coil electric I have used sucked ass and I would pick a gas well before I pick one of those.
I feel like the health benefits I get being able to cook proper, healthy Asian style food with my wok outweigh the health risks of a gas stove.
For what it’s worth I have an induction stove and if I put my steel wok on it empty I can made the bottom third of it glow red hot within about 10 seconds of powering it on.
Gas is absolutely not necessary for this, but there is a grain of truth to the fact that outside of induction stovetops, practically all radiant electric stoves do indeed suck ass.
Shouldn’t you be using your outdoor kitchen to do that properly.
hmm, which kitchen shall i use for this meal?
mfr most of us are grateful to be able to access a kitchen at all, American Suburbia-ass take
No experience with Asian culture, I see.
Well fuck me. According to the downvotes I should really switch to an electric stove (which I can’t because my kitchen doesn’t have the proper outlet for it, so I need to convince the landlord to install it) and then I can cook food with electricity generated by burning coal or uranium.
Thanks for making me a better human being, I guess.
You can use wok with electric stove
“No, you don’t understand. It’s a different kind of heat.” - them, probably.
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Its more like you can’t use a wok on a cheap electric stove, but you can use it on a cheap gas stove. That’s it. You get what you pay for and landlords are parasites, so if you rent gas is what you prefer.
With wok specifically, you either have the specific Chinese high burner that you absolutely can not and should not have in your house, or you can’t do fancy tossing. I am unsure fancy tossing actually achieves anything, but even if it is, you can’t do proper technique at your home kitchen anyway, even with the highest quality flame burner.
Electrics are all I’ve used for the last 30 years
Indeed, we’re going with an induction stove top and a speed oven. Adios gas!
real men use diesel stoves
I just keep a lump of sub-critical plutonium in the kitchen.
