• lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    18 days ago

    Every elective stove I’ve used has sucked for controlling the temperature. I’ll deal with a little air pollution to have my food actually come out how I want it. Maybe induction ones are better but those are expensive.

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      18 days ago

      Yes, induction stoves are the solution. The way I went about it is I bought a secondhand hob for just $110. Works brilliantly, controls just as well as gas. As a bonus, pumping all the energy straight into the cookware makes it heat things up REAL fast.

      Regular electric stove is very inert, making it straight up impossible to do a lot of stuff.

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        18 days ago

        Never heard of these limitations. All I know is you can’t prep a tortilla the right way on gas stoves.

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        18 days ago

        Honesty it is, I feel bad for anyone struggling with poor tools but once you really learn to cook, you can turn any source of heat into good cooking.

        I lived for nearly a decade with a rusty old piece of shit from the 80’s, loose coils that only worked when you pressed down on one side, weird temperature controls that I eventually had to override, lots of problems to overcome. Did some of the best cooking of my life on that thing.

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      18 days ago

      I lived for nearly a decade with an old stove with loose coils, did some of my best cooking in my life on that piece of rusted shit.

      Seriously, give me a goddamn heat source and I will turn it into the finest shit you ever ate.

    • Gladaed@feddit.org
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      18 days ago

      Either gross incompetence or lack of proper pans is at cause. Electric stoves are perfectly fine.

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          18 days ago

          Try: putting it on the highest setting, Use less water (10+liter is a lot and can happen quickly in big pots), Plug it into 3 phase power Make sure to use the highest power section

          In a lot of cases ceran cooktops have higher power delivery to the pot than gas. Also read the manual for how much power each burner has.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      18 days ago

      I think it might simply be a matter of getting used to it. For example, i can cook well enough with an electric (induction) furnace but it’s difficult for me to use a gas stove without burning my food.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    If you have a gas stove and can’t afford, or don’t want to switch to electric, keep a window open in the kitchen while you cook. This is especially important if your over-the-range hood does not vent to the outside (yes, that’s a thing.) If your hood does vent to the outside, turn it on every time you cook and you’re golden.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        Through an activated charcoal filter and right back into your face.

        This is depressingly common and functionally accomplishes just about as much as you expect it does.

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          18 days ago

          Ohhh, thanks. With the right filter it can make sense but it will be far cheaper to just pipe it out.

          • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            18 days ago

            Not just the right filter but a strong enough fan motor to draw air through it. The filter needs to be changed so at some point outside venting becomes cheaper.

            The reality is most people never change the filter and rarely use the fan.

    • Bluewing@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      Yeah, I’m going to open a window every time I want to fry a couple of eggs or bake a loaf of bread at -25F/-32C.

      Just how many hours a day do you think any stove is continuously on? That 3D printer you might own runs far, far longer.

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          18 days ago

          Then you must only breathe the finest purified filtered canned air. And not the dirty polluted air in whatever big city you live in.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    18 days ago

    Gas stoves have a place, and I’m not about to take away anyone’s choice on the matter. With all that being said, to the title of this article, I say “duh”… Honestly, who thought that cooking using an open flame inside your home was somehow safer than the alternative?

    I use electric, I’ve pretty much always used electric. I will continue to use some form of electric stove. I want to have complete control over the heat going into my cookware, and while it may not be as flashy or as quick to use electric, I can’t see any situation where electric would not be safer.

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    18 days ago

    I switched from gas to a 200v induction cooktop and I don’t think I would go back. Quality definitely matters. I have a cassette gas stove for power outages or if I have something that absolutely must use gas (so far, it’s never been pulled out).

    • HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
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      17 days ago

      A I understand it the temperature control with an induction stovetop is just as good, if not better than gas. Is that your experience?

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        17 days ago

        In my experience, yes. The only difference is that you don’t have a visual flame so it takes a little getting used to which setting means what (unless you have the type with a knob and a temperature readout, but I do not).

      • Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de
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        17 days ago

        Depends on the quality of the stove. The bad ones regulate like most resistive glass ceramic stoves in on/off pulses, which is fine for ceramic because the thermal capacity smoothes everything. I’ve got a mobile induction plate like that tho and it is absolutely horrible to work with.

        My decent quality stove top goes from just hand warm (keep warm function) to the fires of mount doom (power function for boiling water) in 17 silky smooth steps. On top of the pulses there is some power regulation as well (you can hear the coil hum change depending on power).

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    18 days ago

    I wish someone pointed this out 20 years ago (enough to be heard). I raised two kids with occasional asthma in a house with gas stove, and maybe that could have been different.

    I recently converted from gas to induction, and find it a much better cooking appliance in every way. Pans on the stovetop heat up faster than with gas, and I can boil a pot of water faster. The oven has more options and more consistent heating, especially on the broiler.

    The only problem was the cost. Way too much money to get a new circuit installed but also the range was double or more what I would have spent on gas. There were very few options at appliance stores, and I never did find one on display, of any brand. In the US, it’s unnecessarily difficult to make this switch.

    When I was shopping for one I was told to pay attention to coil sizes. Sure enough experimenting with a large skillet on small coil shows very uneven heating. I did find one or two reasonable priced ranges but with only tiny coils. Even at spending way too much, I only have one coil that works well with 12” skillet or stock pot. I know ikea now sells an induction range for more reasonable price but coil size is critical and the first thing I’d look at

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      18 days ago

      I have gas and would fight anyone who tries to tell me otherwise. I rented a place with an induction range and now I want one so bad.

    • BanMe@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Having a proper exhaust hood that sucks air outside mitigates this to a huge degree, but a lot of us have hoods that “filter” the air through nothing and then shoot it up towards the ceiling.

      The flippers who did my house disconnected the outside air vent, I’m still pissed and mean to get it fixed, cause I can’t afford an induction range either.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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          18 days ago

          It’s a failure to read the manual thing. Every OTR microwave ever manufactured functions as a hood by definition, and basically all of them (I can only think of like two exceptions) don’t have the option to be configured for either recirculation or to duct outside. It’s just that most models come out of the box already configured for recirculation and most people ('s contractors) are so averse to reading that they fail to realize you can flip the blower motor over and thus cause it to actually accomplish something (provided a duct is in place) rather than just blowing stale air back in your face.

          • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            18 days ago

            The ducting behind a microwave is not that common in my experience. It makes sense for microwaves to come preconfigured to recirculate instead of trying to exhaust to a sheet of drywall because most people are going to install it how it comes out of the box. I’ve installed dozens of microwaves and only twice has ducting existed to flip the venting for. Higher end houses typically have dedicated exhaust fans and lower end houses never seem to have ducting for a microwave. I installed a dedicated fan that exhausts out the roof at my house. Even with ducting those microwave exhaust fans barely provide anything of value. I’m sure my experience is very regional but it seems like a really niche middle ground where someone would bother venting out of the kitchen but also not care enough to have a purpose built exhaust fan.

            • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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              18 days ago

              Part of the problem there is I have guys just absolutely insist at me that a microwave “can’t” be vented outside so they don’t bother to install a duct, and tell me that in order to vent outside you “have” to get a hood instead. This is obviously bogus.

              This also leads to the inevitable Contractor Special where a duct was there, often when the user is replacing an old hood with a microwave, but the installer just shrugs and slaps the microwave on the wall as-is where A) it is inevitably too tall and now way too close to the stovetop, and B) covering the duct outlet while still recirculating back into the room. Whenever I unearth one of these in my travels it makes me want to track down whoever the hell installed it and then punch them so hard they come clean out of their socks.

              People are for some reason hyperfixated on getting appliances off of their countertops, which is why the over-the-range microwaves became so prevalent in the first place. (And then they all immediately filled the spot where their countertop microwave used to be with a countertop air fryer instead, but that’s a whole different discussion.)

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                18 days ago

                Yeah that would drive me insane to run across. It’s not even particularly hard to tell that the exhaust fan motor is reversible just by looking at the top/back of the microwave before it is installed. Every one I’ve seen looks pretty damn modular in comparison to the rest of the microwave shell.

                Edit: reversible is the wrong word, able to be unscrewed and rotated, I’m sure you know what I meant but on a reread of my comment I wanted to clarify.

      • AA5B@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        As a taller guy who wears glasses, I’ve had the horrible experience of some of these filters blowing greasy air in my face and settling on my glasses. Not pleasant

        Mine has a vent, but no hood so there’s only so much it can do. And the way they built out the kitchen means there’s no good way to install a hood without remodelling.

        But now I don’t care as much. The current vent (and window) is good enough for induction

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        If you think you can’t afford an induction range, you also can’t afford to hire contractors to have your new ductwork put in and/or unborked.

        Much as I hate to recommend Frigidaire for various reasons, the FCFI3083AS is I think the most economical freestanding 30" induction range on the market at the moment and has an MSRP of $1099. You can probably score one from some discount or independent appliance retailers (i.e. not Home Depot, Lowes, or Best Buy) for a little under a thousand.

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    18 days ago

    Cheap 90s era induction stoves in apartments that are still kicking give induction a bad name. New ones are the closest thing you can get to temperature control and speed of a full burner stove. My ideal would be an induction stove with one zone rounded for a round bottom wok. For a home kitchen, it’s the best choice because you’re not going to get the amazing jet burner stoves you get in commercial kitchens

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    19 days ago

    I feel like the health benefits I get being able to cook proper, healthy Asian style food with my wok outweigh the health risks of a gas stove.

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      18 days ago

      Well fuck me. According to the downvotes I should really switch to an electric stove (which I can’t because my kitchen doesn’t have the proper outlet for it, so I need to convince the landlord to install it) and then I can cook food with electricity generated by burning coal or uranium.

      Thanks for making me a better human being, I guess.

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          18 days ago

          Its more like you can’t use a wok on a cheap electric stove, but you can use it on a cheap gas stove. That’s it. You get what you pay for and landlords are parasites, so if you rent gas is what you prefer.

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            18 days ago

            With wok specifically, you either have the specific Chinese high burner that you absolutely can not and should not have in your house, or you can’t do fancy tossing. I am unsure fancy tossing actually achieves anything, but even if it is, you can’t do proper technique at your home kitchen anyway, even with the highest quality flame burner.

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        18 days ago

        hmm, which kitchen shall i use for this meal?

        mfr most of us are grateful to be able to access a kitchen at all, American Suburbia-ass take

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      For what it’s worth I have an induction stove and if I put my steel wok on it empty I can made the bottom third of it glow red hot within about 10 seconds of powering it on.

      Gas is absolutely not necessary for this, but there is a grain of truth to the fact that outside of induction stovetops, practically all radiant electric stoves do indeed suck ass.

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    18 days ago

    I’m suprised there are developed countries were gas stoves still are used, unless power is non-existant or in low quantity due to poor grid or fully off-grid.

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        18 days ago

        Well because it is woke. And that’s a good thing. Acknowledging that gas stoves cause indoor pollution is woke as fuck.

        So sick and tired of “woke” being used as a negative term, because the republicans labeled it as such. They hate it so much because they hate change, even if it’s positive change for the betterment of society.

        Stay safe. Stay woke.

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          18 days ago

          it’s like they consider asthma a badge of pride.

          these fucks are making their kids suffer, again, for their silly stupid ideas

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    18 days ago

    Growing up we usedgas. Mother’s home (not our childhood home) also has gas. I’m in a home that is wired for either but had electric when I moved in. We had to replace the stove and I choose to keep it electric which surprised my mom. “But gas baking is so much nicer!” And no it’s not. Electric interior was much easier and nicer to use. But she didn’t bake much so lol.

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      18 days ago

      gas baking is so much nicer!

      This is odd to me, as someone who has owned both gas and electric. Baking is pretty comparable between the two. Preheat oven, put in item for amount of time. Though, our gas oven’s exhaust would really heat up the kitchen, which was not so great in the summer.

      Usually when people praise gas it’s about stovetop performance. As gas instantly changes temperature and lets you use things like woks. I have also heard people praise them for working in power outages just fine.

      The glass top electrics are so damn easy to clean though. That alone has made them the winner for me. On the other side, every exposed coil electric I have used sucked ass and I would pick a gas well before I pick one of those.