Hey, coming from a history teacher, (now, server as I make 3-4x as much) — it’s horrid! And I miss teaching every damn day! FUCK AMERICA! Here’s my questions to you.
3 parts:
1: I’m here to ask a legitimate question, if we all agree, that “Fascism”, is wrong then why is “ANTIFA”, now made the “enemy”??? Is it because now we’re living in a “Fascist State” or, (soon to be) state?? Lack of education?? Funding for public funding programs?? Do not know what “ANTIFA” truly means?, etc.
Because as Trump stated he, “he did not know Miller during elections”: so again, Trump: “didn’t even know the writer of Project 2025… but now a member of his cabinet”? So lie right?
The definition of “ANTIFA” means anti-fascism… so people who voted for Trump, how do you feel about this? As our economy is crumbling, are egg prices better? Food costs lower, wages higher? Are you MAGA voters living an “America First” life?
2: USA FAILS on ALL educational fields by a LONG shot we don’t even break the top 30 in anything, do you think this is why we have “president” who “won again”? I just want to understand the MAGA votes views… and want to know… America is not first in anything and prove me wrong PLEASE! So please explain why anyone thinks we’re #1, in honestly anything, but ego?
3: Finally question… if you voted MAGA, has Trump ACTUALLY helped you at all? If so please give me examples and FACTS so I can get a better understanding the voting you made the country suffer through? PLEASE enlighten me and others!
Finally thought: VOTE or STFU! You do not get to complain and comment about politics when your ass was too lazy or didn’t care enough to vote! Sit down and bow out because your voice DID NOT AND NOW doesn’t matter, just like you not voting put us here!
So ONLY comment if you had/have a voice with that vote please (any vote, not just MAGA).
Thank you!!!
If you’re anti-Antifa, you’re fa, as in fascist. It’s really as simple as that.
propaganda based on classic mussolini style hate. you pick the opponent who doesnt want you to ruin everything, and advertise them as evil.
are you really a history teacher?
I’m glad that they aren’t any more
Although the calibre of teachers in the US is fucking abysmal
There are so many wonderful teachers, but also so many appalling ones
Methinks this individual has a theological axe to grind, or at least an agenda to push
Also, many “academic institutions” in 'Murica are religious, and the pieces of paper they hand out aren’t worth shit in the civilised world
No, they are a server now. If an ex history teacher has to ask this then server was likely a good career move.
I became a server again because I can make almost $5k a month with WAY less hours!! And then I don’t have to deal with people and parents like you all pretending everyone ELSE is wrong and “stupid” for asking questions and telling people how fucked up they are via internet when probably have nothing valid to offer society!
I am happy with my choice, I make so much more money since the American education system is GARBAGE! We do not even rank the top 25-30 in ANYTHING world wide! Hence why they keep cutting funding, keeping Americans dumb… corpo owned media, trolls on the internet, “news stations” but truly a version of “The View”, TikTok/FB for “news” etc. it’s honestly embarrassing!
Have a great day and keep trolling on! ✌🏼
There isn’t any trolling. Anyone with half a brain knows that the MAGA cult leaders pick a target scapegoat … be it “Antifa”, transgenders, or Hispanics, and then sounds the War cry to keep the idiots marching the way they want. There is no way someone with a minimum of a two year degree doesnt realize this.
they can frame antifa as enemy terrorist of the left, eventhough its not even a unified organizaiton like most terrorist group and its not even a terror group.
Antifa is a misleading name, just like “The Democratic Republic of North Korea”
They might be Anti -Fascist, but it’s not that simple, IMO they tarnish the name
They aren’t an actual group. There’s no leader or meetings. That’s like putting everyone who hates candy corn in a group and saying it’s an organized faction to destroy candy corn.
Ok look it’s simple I am against fascism. I’m also against violent protests, looting etc.
Antifa is very often involved in violent protests, looting etc. So I can’t support them
And I feel they give people who oppose fascism a bad reputation
There’s no group to support! Antifa isn’t a name it’s just a short hand for anti fascist. You are antifa. Yes looters are bad but they are individual people doing bad things and later being labeled to give people a group to hate.
If I believe in democracy, does that make me a Democrat?
No because democrats are an actual organized group.
Can you point them out? Name one?
Nee, want jy is 'n ouskool pre-94 wit-Afrikaner.
They are often involved in riots, looting and violent protests. They seem to be anarchists more than anti-fascists
Tsek, ek is born free en als behalwe 'n ouskool Afrikaner
Maybe everyone outside the GOP should start using the full name instead of “antifa”. “the anti fascists are the enemy” doesn’t sound the same way.
Because they’ve been fearmongering about them for a decade.
same reason they think vaccines are bad.
Some or even most of their goals are good, but there’s what I hope/believe to be a fringe that’s anarchist and anti-capitalist. Those fringes are against civilization essentially and it makes sense for anyone living in civilization to oppose those fringes.
Sidenote about the name: they call themselves “anti-fascist” but we all know that just because somebody calls themselves something doesn’t necessarily make them that. Famous examples: “national socialist”, “democratic people’s republic”, “holy roman empire”. So essentially, being anti-antifa does not translate into being fascist.
GOP probably opposes them because of Antifa’s good goals as well, but GOP uses those bad goals as the propagandist reason why everyone should oppose them.
Holy fuck that is practically impossible to read. It’s like something I would expect to see in grandma’s facebook circles, not from an alleged former teacher.
If you’re looking from sense from maga folks you’re not going to get it, if you want to hear from voting liberals you will get your confirmation, but yeesh. There are, I believe, three questions buried in there and I can’t even bring myself to join the search party.
The GOP doesn’t think they are fascists. They think the term is only being used to try to deride them without actually being correct. From there, when they see “Anti-fascists” constantly opposing THEM, they think it’s just some violent group that has used an ad hominem attack for their name.
It would be comparable to someone making an anti-shithead group, and then that group is always out trying to stop you from doing whatever you do. Not only would they be a direct problem for you, but the fact that they’re targeting you would imply then that they’re also calling you a shithead.
In regards to #1, Antifa isn’t sold as an “antifascist” organization to the MAGA crowd. It is sold as a “leftist” organization that participated a lot in the BLM protests. This is sold as a big scary group that will make America a bad country.
If you aren’t steeped in right wing media, you wouldn’t know of this organization because this organization doesn’t exist.
Fascists don’t believe that fascism is bad.
And I guess that’s correct when you’re a narcissistic psychopath whose in charge.
Antifa has been branded by the GOP as a group that does not follow a specific ideology purely focused on fascism, they’ve been marked as a “dangerous, violent, leftist (important point) group.”
The politicians are using the antifa boogyman as a political tool and the MAGA supporters are just opposing a group they see as “leftist terrorists.” In their eyes it has nothing to do with any kind of “legitimate” resistance to fascism so they’ll outright reject the notion that being against Antifa means your for fascism.
They’ve been conditioned to absolutely loath anyone on the left with the most pure burning hatred, so in using the qualifier “leftist” in their description they invoke the thought terminating process, leftist means you hate them without thought, and antifa is now a label you can put on anyone you want to persecute. The “base” may have been conditioned to despise “the left,” but I think we’re still at the point where the right can’t simply say “we’re arresting them because they’re Democrats that are protesting our actions” so they need this “dangerous terrorist group” to exist as the enemy.
yeah, unfortunately expecting them to understand what fascism means in any sort of complex way is giving them too much credit
THANK YOU! This helped me understand so much! I am just trying to wrap my head around what’s going on currently and what happened in history and how it’s melting together, so honestly thank you!
I appreciate you not attacking me and being my religion into it and just explaining it to me in reality and to the point. So seriously, thank you!
Yeah I lurk around r/conservative and hubs still lurks on the remains of Twitter just because we both a) can’t look away and b) think it’s important to understand what’s going on over there.
I usually see stuff said like “they’re not actually antifascists that’s just a misdirection to cover their real fascist ideologies.” Which is a genuine strategy in political propaganda. People use all kinds of labels to cover up all kinds of awful shit.
Really the only way around that is to focus less on labels overall and focus more on individuals and either thoughts on or even more importantly actual specific real world actions. I don’t know what political label people would put me under.
A lot of my local politicians last year were listed independent. I picked the one that wanted to expand the bus lines. I think a fetus is a human being but that it doesn’t have a right to use a woman’s body without her continuous consent. I think the rich have broken a bunch of the social contracts they made to avoid bloodshed and that something bloody is inevitable more than it even is desirable. I’m thinking that next time there’s political unrest in my area I should just sit on an out of the way street corner with a sign that says “RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.”
Dunno what any of that makes me but I’d like to find more of us if possible. Sometimes labels help that, sometimes they don’t. Wish I had a better or cleaner answer fire you.
No honestly, this is the best comment I’ve heard all night you came and told me exactly what I needed to hear without provocation and without hate but more or less just giving me the answers that it was actually asking in my question, so thank you! It was not religion. I know I asked it, but it wasn’t an attack to me and mine just asking if that’s why they believe, so thank you honestly, just THANK YOU!
They are FA
I think it is because people who identify as antifa are usually more than just opposed to fascism. They also promote a set of political opinions beyond opposition to fascism. Those political opinions are unattractive to many people who dislike both fascism and antifa.
Thank you! I feel like I was just attacked for my religion, when it had nothing to do with it! I legit had to comment something I never wanted and I just don’t get people! Just because I believe something doesn’t make me part of a “cult” and believe what they believe…
That’s for the true MAGA CULT to believe and follow as this illegal held a Bible upside down for a photo op! (His family dodged a war, just like his father ass self). How dare they judge me while I am just trying to understand and never MY mentioned religion!!! I legit was asking a qesurion Thank you! I feel like I was just attacked for my religion, when it had nothing to do with it! I legit had to comment something I never wanted and I just don’t get people! Just because I believe something doesn’t make me part of a “cult” and believe what they believe…
That’s for the true MAGA CULT to believe and follow as this illegal held a Bible upside down for a photo op! (His family dodged a war, just like his father ass self). How dare they judge me while I am just trying to understand and never mentioned my religion!!! Then my religion was attacked.
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The people in charge dislike Antifa because people who align under that label oppose those in power.
I hesitate to use the argument “‘Antifa’ means ‘anti-fascist’ therefore if you don’t like Antifa you are necessarily fascist”–not because I don’t believe it’s true, but because I believe it’s more correlation. The “National Socialist” party was not as its name purports, nor do many of the “Protect the children” laws actually do what they say on the tin; therefore a deeper inspection on acts, means, motives, and results is warranted over a mere “literal definition of the name.”
Thank you for saying it so I didn’t have to. It’s so disappointing to see people on “my side” say dumb crap like “wait so if ur anti antifa that means ur calling urself fascist haha 🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🧠 Q.E.D republikkkan”. Like fuck me. Just like you said it’s the same shit as Republicans saying “oh you’re socialist??? Google what Nazi stands for sweaty 🤭🤗”
You’d think people would learn not to use shitty reasoning when it’s used against them. But it seems like instead people only care that the reasoning is bad if it contradicts them. And as soon as they want to throw things at their enemy they’ll pick up whatever flawed garbage they can, not worried about how it reflects on them or how it undermines the state of reasonable public discourse. Any weapon is valid as long as it’s used against the Enemy. So disappointing.
Note: My rant against people here is not directed at OP who seems to be genuinely confused about the dynamic of misrepresentative naming. And to clarify further, it doesn’t matter that antifa isn’t a misrepresentative name: it’s opponents think it is.
Thank you both! This is the answer I was trying to get and understand, nothing about religion, I get that but seriously cannot fathom or understand people hating “Antifa” when it WAS (previous) and anti facism group and I know groups can get morphed but seriously… how is that okay?
I am not trying to talk religion, I was just legit asking a question and on the attack of my own religion when just asking.
So honestly thank you! I have a better understanding!
Exactly, just because you oppose ‘The Democratic Republic of North Korea’ doesn’t mean you’re anti democracy.
People hide behind fake names all the time, Antifa seems more anarchist than anti-fascist to me.
