• CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿
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    4310 months ago

    And so begins a new battle in the eternal war between Americans with indoor cats and others with outdoor cats.

    It’s pretty difficult to actually find an indoor cat in the UK. In the US it’s common.

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      10 months ago

      I guess we in Finland are Americand now lol

      We’re more worried about the cats wellbeing though than the birds.

    • @[email protected]
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      2510 months ago

      Which is fitting because, in the end, when the hell have the British cared about the fallout of anything they do

      • ThenThreeMore
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        -310 months ago

        🤣 seems like the yanks learned that pretty well from us then.

        • @[email protected]
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          610 months ago

          Lol American is the fallout of you people sending all your crazy religious fucks across the ocean and hoping for the best

          • ThenThreeMore
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            210 months ago

            To be fair I wouldn’t say we ‘sent them’ more that they left because they couldn’t oppress people as much as they wanted.

          • Ann Archy
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            210 months ago

            Heeeyy! We just kicked them out, we didn’t know they’d go and start a new country overseas!

            We honestly should have killed them there and then, nip it in the bud.

        • @[email protected]
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          810 months ago

          It was a light hearted joke about the British that clearly hit a little close to home considering your rage.

          • @[email protected]
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            -110 months ago

            You’re literally crying about animals killing other animals. Stupid, non-verbal animals that function on instinct.

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              10 months ago

              … Which is why you need to keep them inside, because when they are outside they act on instinct.

              12 year olds understand this. Where are you stuck? Is it because I didnt use large colorful pictures? Are words with 5+ letters the problem?

    • ThenThreeMore
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      1910 months ago

      Our cats are indoors. They used to be outdoors then some cunt shot one with an air rifle.

        • ThenThreeMore
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          1310 months ago

          My neighbour at the time was a lovely rough diamond type with a big knife scar down his face. He said he had an idea who it might have been and was going to have words.

          We moved out of that area not long after.

      • @[email protected]
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        -1310 months ago

        That cunt was in that moment a better person and more responsible manager of your animals. Cats are a manmade plague that destroy the ecosystem.

    • lad
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      1410 months ago

      I’m not so sure both about Americans having their cats indoors, and “others” having it the opposite way. I have never been to the UK or the US, but most owners I had seen kept their cats indoors. Except for Georgia (the country), where cats seem to be treated as some sort of weed that grows on it’s own

      • Pandantic [they/them]
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        310 months ago

        Except for Georgia (the country), where cats seem to be treated as some sort of weed that grows on it’s own

        I like this phrasing. I’d love to hear more about how you came to this conclusion.

        • lad
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          810 months ago

          There are a lot of strays around at first sight, but then I found out that at least about a third of them have owner/owners because they sometimes stick to several places. A lot of people also care for the strays and check them for issues not taking 'em home, some initiatives are doing neutering and finding homes for treated cats.

          I heard it’s somewhat similar in Türkiye, everyone loves cats but mostly don’t want to care about them above feeding them when met. Don’t know if outdoor cats are popular there, though

      • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿
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        2410 months ago

        Nope. And the RSPB doesn’t believe cats are a concern:

        The UK’s largest bird charity, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB), is not particularly concerned about the impact of cats on the British mainland.

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/14/cats-kill-birds-wildlife-keep-indoors

        And a Bristol study found cats kill the “doomed” weak and sick birds - not healthy birds: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1474-919X.2008.00836.x

        • Repple (she/her)
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          2910 months ago

          Cats have also been around in the UK significantly longer than many other places. Here in Hawaii they’re a plague on native species that had no such predators before.

          • @[email protected]
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            1610 months ago

            That’s a big part of the difference. Cats in the old world are probably fine since everything there has evolved alongside them. But the native species in the Americas haven’t had housecats to worry about until relatively recently in evolutionary terms.

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              610 months ago

              I’m a outdoor cat person but in fairness one issue to consider is that while cats are natural in Europe, their current numbers and general location are something that’s pretty unnatural. I definitely err on the side of not being concerned about it, but I do think it’s something to consider as people have more pets.

              Personally I have one cat that has brought in a single frog, and another that exclusively brings in recycling.

          • deweydecibel
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            110 months ago

            Yeah but Hawaii’s ecosystem is different from the mainland, too. Every area is going to handle this differently.

        • @[email protected]
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          1410 months ago

          The UK used to have a different feline species that was native to the isles.

          Its likely going extinct because of the UK obsession with outdoor cats.

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            Since 2017, the Cat Classification Task Force of the Cat Specialist Group recognizes Felis silvestris silvestris as the valid scientific name for all European wildcat populations, arguing that it is doubtful that the Scottish wildcat is sufficiently distinct to accord it separate subspecific status.

            It’s just a plain old cat, it’s not going extinct.

        • @[email protected]
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          1410 months ago

          Yes, according to the RSPB habitat destruction from expanding urban areas and farmland is the main threat to bird life in the UK.

          When my family had a cat it would mostly catch and bring home earthworms.

          • Daeraxa
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            310 months ago

            I get lots of leaves and slugs. Occasionally an alive frog, one loves catching them for me but never even attempts to eat it.

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      And thats why the wild felines are going extinct in the british isles.

      Ay, but tradition right? Fuck the natives, as is british tradition

      • veroxii
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        Yeah the British really do have a history of royally fucking over whole eco systems. Brought rabbits to Australia thinking they would be a good food source.

        Except they bred like well rabbits. And destroyed whole eco systems. So the British imported foxes to eat the rabbits. Except literally every other native species is easier for a fox to kill than a fast rabbit.

        Fucking morons.

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          410 months ago

          That’s a bit of a harsh take considering it was one guy on the 19th century who didn’t know better. Looking at it he brought 13 rabbits for his private estate - I don’t think the science was there for extended Environmental Impact Studies back then - just some rich guy making a minor change to his place having unintended consequences so branding an entire country as fucking morons is a bit much.

          • veroxii
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            210 months ago

            Okay. One English guy was a fucking moron with regards to rabbits. Plenty others were morons for other things in Australia.

            • @[email protected]
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              310 months ago

              Awesome, glad that’s settled, just a minor blip on what would be Australia’s impeccable record of care for both indigenous creatures, and indigenous people.