• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I think the Democrat party is a problem for pushing forward candidates that suck. There no way Trump wins in 2016 if he was going against somebody that was actually popular.

    I am getting serious 2016 vibes this cycle. Biden should never have run a second time. And after that debate performance it feels like continuing with Biden is just as big of a mistake.

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      6 months ago

      People like you underestimate how old and conservative most ppl who vote Dem are

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        6 months ago

        I get that, but part of the issue is optics. The Democratic party can easily promote the narrative that “progressive” ideals are not far left.

        Hillary Clinton said in a debate that Medicare for all will never be implemented. She didn’t say that because she believed it, or even that she wanted it to be true. She said it because her opponent was running on that platform and gaining a massive following of mainstream voters as a result.

        The party needs to quit reacting when Republicans say they are “far left” and instead fight to control the narrative. I guarantee the “old and conservative” democratic voters would follow suit if the party pushed for it.

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      6 months ago

      There no way Trump wins in 2016 if he was going against somebody that was actually popular.

      No way he would have won the primary without Hilary’s Pied-Piper Strategy

      This isn’t even entirely an optics problem. Democrats in leadership believe they are best served when they are the centrist running against fascism rather than a progressive running against some boilerplate business conservative. So they actively encourage the freaks in the GOP while fighting tooth and nail to keep greens and socialists off their end of the ballot

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        6 months ago

        Democrats are so afraid of being called “Far Left” that they end up being much further right than most Democrat’s want. Fact is, progressive democrats aren’t even “Far Left”. They need to quit playing onto they narrative cause it’s not true.

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          6 months ago

          They are a center right party…of course they don’t want to be called progressive…