If someone got you a bottle of liquor you probably have drank with them or spoken about it… it’s not difficult to assume someone said oh he likes this lets get it for him. Further this is a pretty common brand and has a good chance of getting picked in general.
The speed at which people assume the worst and get offended recently needs to get dialed back… a lot. If I wanted to slight a dude I wouldn’t spend money to do it.
That’s sort of the point. There is minimal context on the image so we are left to extrapolate from what we can see.
I see a nice office setting with a fairly dressed down couple of people who seem reasonably at ease in the space. It is a chocolate cake which is the typical go-to in most situations and appears to be store bought. Depending on where you live you can get liquor in the store or at a small store nearby. Some of the largest displays and most well known brands are Makers, Crown, and Hennessy. These are typically larger displays where even if you knew nothing about liquor you could probably pick one of those 3… and of those crown comes in packaging which would be a pain to take apart if you were just looking for a quick better than a birthday card gift.
…So assuming they knew fuck all about him there’s still a coin flip it would have been Hennessy. As far as the cake goes probably better than 60-70%. So hanlons razor: did someone just blow 70 bucks for a cake and booze to take a cheap shot at the guy? I doubt it.
I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I can tell you most people won’t go out of their way to get you a gift on your birthday outside of maybe a gift card from a boss. I see no malice here. Am I making assumptions? Sure. It’s an image and I provided my take on it. What was yours again?
I’m looking at the text associated with the image and see two possible scenarios.
The one that you describe where the co-workers are being nice and the black guy is being an asshole for complaining about it.
Or the other scenario where the black dude’s co-workers are making assumptions about the dude based on stereotypes. In which case the black dude is rightfully bothered by this and the co-workers are making ignorant assumptions based on race.
And I see you making further ignorant assumptions and assuming the scenario that the black dude is being an asshole is the correct one without really considering the image and the text we’re discussing at face value could actually be accurate. You’re preferring a made up scenario which implies the black dude is being dishonest, rather than the scenario as presented.
We can’t know which scenario is true. But we do know which assumptions you prefer, and your assumptions says something about you. You preference is for scenarios which assume black people are dishonest.
The one that you describe where the co-workers are being nice and the black guy is being an asshole for complaining about it.
Alternatively, this guy could be simply misinterpreting a pretty (all things considered) passable gesture. As I mentioned before: hanlons razor.
Or the other scenario where the black dude’s co-workers are making assumptions about the dude …
Totally plausible. This is an office party- we only know so much.
…based on stereotypes.
Why this? Yeah people can be insensitive but that’s a hell of a leap to make here.
In which case the black dude is rightfully bothered by this and the co-workers are making ignorant assumptions based on race.
Possible? Sure. Here’s my take: I just got cake and free booze. How we choose to interpret things goes a long way. Even if it were racially driven- there’s two sides of this… and only of them is backed by malice… and if so: as I mentioned … that’s a big spend to be a dick.
If he wants to be offended by all means: go to hr. But he posted it on Twitter. Excuse me for being blunt but based on where he posted it- he was looking for a reaction and won’t further speculate there.
And I see you making further ignorant …
I mentioned earlier that a lot of things have to do with perception. You are running to defend a dubious at best situation with minimal information. You have no skin in this- there is no reason to be so invested in something where you would attribute my blunt, but fair, assessment as malice. Many people would do well to take a breath before jumping to conclusions… we’d all be better for it.
Hypothetically, someone that assumes a black person to be dishonest based on no evidence is a racist.
To make this less hypothetical, are you assuming the black dude is dishonest or not? Just want to know who’s a hypothetical racist and who’s an actual racists here.
Stereotypes aside, a bottle of cognac and chocolate cake is pretty good as far as office birthdays go.
Yup.
If someone got you a bottle of liquor you probably have drank with them or spoken about it… it’s not difficult to assume someone said oh he likes this lets get it for him. Further this is a pretty common brand and has a good chance of getting picked in general.
The speed at which people assume the worst and get offended recently needs to get dialed back… a lot. If I wanted to slight a dude I wouldn’t spend money to do it.
Your entire argument depends on the fact that this dude Hennessy with his co-workers or talked about.
A fact which (as far as I can tell) you just made up.
That’s sort of the point. There is minimal context on the image so we are left to extrapolate from what we can see.
I see a nice office setting with a fairly dressed down couple of people who seem reasonably at ease in the space. It is a chocolate cake which is the typical go-to in most situations and appears to be store bought. Depending on where you live you can get liquor in the store or at a small store nearby. Some of the largest displays and most well known brands are Makers, Crown, and Hennessy. These are typically larger displays where even if you knew nothing about liquor you could probably pick one of those 3… and of those crown comes in packaging which would be a pain to take apart if you were just looking for a quick better than a birthday card gift.
…So assuming they knew fuck all about him there’s still a coin flip it would have been Hennessy. As far as the cake goes probably better than 60-70%. So hanlons razor: did someone just blow 70 bucks for a cake and booze to take a cheap shot at the guy? I doubt it.
I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I can tell you most people won’t go out of their way to get you a gift on your birthday outside of maybe a gift card from a boss. I see no malice here. Am I making assumptions? Sure. It’s an image and I provided my take on it. What was yours again?
I’m looking at the text associated with the image and see two possible scenarios.
The one that you describe where the co-workers are being nice and the black guy is being an asshole for complaining about it.
Or the other scenario where the black dude’s co-workers are making assumptions about the dude based on stereotypes. In which case the black dude is rightfully bothered by this and the co-workers are making ignorant assumptions based on race.
And I see you making further ignorant assumptions and assuming the scenario that the black dude is being an asshole is the correct one without really considering the image and the text we’re discussing at face value could actually be accurate. You’re preferring a made up scenario which implies the black dude is being dishonest, rather than the scenario as presented.
We can’t know which scenario is true. But we do know which assumptions you prefer, and your assumptions says something about you. You preference is for scenarios which assume black people are dishonest.
Try to be a better person.
Or three. It’s all BS and the poster just snapped the picture (or it isn’t even his picture) and he made up that it’s his birthday/work gift.
Alternatively, this guy could be simply misinterpreting a pretty (all things considered) passable gesture. As I mentioned before: hanlons razor.
Totally plausible. This is an office party- we only know so much.
Why this? Yeah people can be insensitive but that’s a hell of a leap to make here.
Possible? Sure. Here’s my take: I just got cake and free booze. How we choose to interpret things goes a long way. Even if it were racially driven- there’s two sides of this… and only of them is backed by malice… and if so: as I mentioned … that’s a big spend to be a dick.
If he wants to be offended by all means: go to hr. But he posted it on Twitter. Excuse me for being blunt but based on where he posted it- he was looking for a reaction and won’t further speculate there.
I mentioned earlier that a lot of things have to do with perception. You are running to defend a dubious at best situation with minimal information. You have no skin in this- there is no reason to be so invested in something where you would attribute my blunt, but fair, assessment as malice. Many people would do well to take a breath before jumping to conclusions… we’d all be better for it.
You should have stopped there.
Every day. How about you?
Yes, that is how hypotheticals work. It’s how we imagine things we don’t know specific details about and try and find ways to explain them.
Hypothetically, someone that assumes a black person to be dishonest based on no evidence is a racist.
To make this less hypothetical, are you assuming the black dude is dishonest or not? Just want to know who’s a hypothetical racist and who’s an actual racists here.
Let’s nip this in the bud here. If I like hotdogs do I automatically hate hamburgers?
Why is it you are on such a crusade to paint someone as a racist simply for making a moderate statement? This isn’t a binary thing.
Further what makes what you are doing morally any better than what you are assuming the gift buyers to be doing?
You are entirely too wrapped up in this and it’s not a good look, man.
I’m assuming the black dude is making a joke about all the hypersensitive people on the internet.
Something you make a good example of.
I must be outta the loop. What does liquor and cake have to do with stereotypes in this context?