It seems to me the kaleidoscoping of the unity that rainbow flag aimed for doesn’t make the community stronger. I feel the drive to have some constantly evolving all inclusive name and define each and every subset of queer hurts the brand. Instead of a united community there’s tiny little fifedoms that are cliquey and far from universally welcoming. By so rigorously defining the individual the community gets lost and the message gets drowned in a see of voices yelling their specific flavour of gay.
It brings this joke to mind:
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”
He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”
He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”
Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”
I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.
This is just my observation as an old out of touch cis guy with a queer daughter.
Believe it or not, there’s a lot of queer people who are pretty bigoted against other groups under the queer label. The classic example being LGBdroptheT. The affirmations of specific groups are a reaction to that in-community bigotry, which sociologists call lateral violence. These all-encompasing terms like gsrm don’t always fulfil the function of explicitly including groups that suffer lateral violence.
There’s even trans people on Lemmy who claim that nounself pronouns are a transphobic trolling tactic.
Completely agree, the community feels more fragmented than ever. I likely correspond to at least three different pride flags from my orientation at this point and I still mix up the colors. Can we just go back to being “gay” as a broad term? I’ll save the semantics for my pronouns and sexual partners lol
It seems to me the kaleidoscoping of the unity that rainbow flag aimed for doesn’t make the community stronger. I feel the drive to have some constantly evolving all inclusive name and define each and every subset of queer hurts the brand. Instead of a united community there’s tiny little fifedoms that are cliquey and far from universally welcoming. By so rigorously defining the individual the community gets lost and the message gets drowned in a see of voices yelling their specific flavour of gay.
It brings this joke to mind:
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!” Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.
This is just my observation as an old out of touch cis guy with a queer daughter.
Hear, hear!
I’m old enough to remember when terms like mullato and quadroon were common expressions.
People started using ‘Black’ to get away from that mind set.
Believe it or not, there’s a lot of queer people who are pretty bigoted against other groups under the queer label. The classic example being LGBdroptheT. The affirmations of specific groups are a reaction to that in-community bigotry, which sociologists call lateral violence. These all-encompasing terms like gsrm don’t always fulfil the function of explicitly including groups that suffer lateral violence.
There’s even trans people on Lemmy who claim that nounself pronouns are a transphobic trolling tactic.
Completely agree, the community feels more fragmented than ever. I likely correspond to at least three different pride flags from my orientation at this point and I still mix up the colors. Can we just go back to being “gay” as a broad term? I’ll save the semantics for my pronouns and sexual partners lol