• Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Strand of exterior lights, one end male plug one female. Idiots start to mount the lights with the female end near their outlet. Get done, become confused, go to store for male to male cord to plug into female end.

    The female end is for chaining multiple strands, not for supplying power (directly) from the power socket.

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      The power can go through the female end just fine, that’s not the problem. The problem is people plug this “suicide cable” into the wall first, thus creating a 120v taser of sorts. Like someone else in this thread said, the only problem from cables like that is people tend to try to backfeed energy into the system with a generator or solar panels. Boom.

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        Also, at the end of the chain there is a male terminal exposed with live current. Could cause a fire I guess.

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        4 months ago

        So is the problem solved by not plugging it into a powered wall plug? Just like… flick the switch off, like you would a light switch before changing a bulb?

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            4 months ago

            Wait really? I don’t think I have a single unswitched plug in my house, and I’ve never seen another house with even a single unswitched plug. Do US people need to unplug cords to get rid of standby lights?

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              Behold the typical North American duplex power outlet. They typically do not have a built in switch. They might be controlled by a light switch, so you can throw a switch near the door and have the floor lamps turn on but most are always hot.

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                  Technically yes, as do those switches internally, but if the device you’re plugging in is switched off or pulls a very small load it won’t be much. If you’re plugging in an air conditioner or something that’s going to present a big inductive load, and it is switched on so it will get power the instant it plugs in, yeah you might see a little flash of light. make sure such things are switched off before plugging them in.

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          Yes, but if someone trips over the cord there is a 50% chance the wrong side comes unplugged and potentially kills them, hence why they don’t make these cords

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        4 months ago

        You cam cover them with electric tape or put a cover on them. It’s nobmore dangerous than your home’s exterior outlets though.

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          Homes exterior outlets??? It might be europe but we dont have neither of those seemingly pretty dangerous things.

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            4 months ago

            Gfci outlets are pretty cool technology. They make getting electrocuted impossible as long they are installed correctly.

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                4 months ago

                Considering they are required by code to have them anywhere there is water. America does have them.

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            I’m going to assume you are English, since they seem to have extreme fear of electric shocks. But there is never any issue with exterior outlets. 99% of them have covers like this and are no nore dangerous that light switches on a patio or in your bathroom.

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              The places where i lived for longer times are hungary, sweden and ireland. Ireland has the same plug as the uk, and in hungary and sweden its the general eu plug. While the plug you linked does seem mostly safe, i think its a good thing that the uk takes electrical safety seriously. My main problem with the female plug is its a christmas tree that can catch on fire and i dont think an exposed wire near it is a good idea. If the cover is required in some way to complete the circuit then i have no problem with it. Thats good design but the sad thing is most of times they skip the good design part.

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                Thr cover doesn’t complete the circuit, it just prevents debris getting into the socket. An extension cord doesn’t have a cover on the female end and it is completely safe, just like an outlet in a bathroom or a surge protector.

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                  Ok but an extension chord isnt on a TREE. If the breaker trips or the fuse blows the tree is already on fire.

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        Every Christmas light string I have seen has had a small fuse inside of the plug, so even if you managed to get a female plug full of water or something and somehow manage to get shocked before a breaker trips in the outlet, you’re probably just going to blow the fuse.

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          Every Christmas light I’ve ever seen were all low voltage. The last Christmas light that was directly into main power instead of having a power convertor plug was decades ago. I guess that’s EU regulations at work.