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      2 months ago

      It’s wild to me that Democrats thought Hillary Clinton 2.0 was a good idea. They even fucked up the primaries like in 2016 as well.

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            Like how granular do we want to get? There was no time for primaries with finding multiple candidates who have time to prepare a platform based on new pollng information (also takes time) on what policies were popular and battling it out for a month which would have cut into campaigning time.

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          joe biden has been in office for almost four years. his approval rating has been low for a while. there was time

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            … He didn’t step down until 3 months before the election, so no there wasn’t time for a primary after he stepped down.

            There was time for him to step down and I think he should have never tried for a second term, but that’s not what the discussion is.

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              it looks like we’re mostly on the same page here. maybe the only difference is that i think that joe biden’s refusal to step down was a core part of fucking up the primary. so, for that reason, i think it is an important part of the discussion. there would have been plenty of time if he had stepped down earlier.

              but i’m more-so just trying to clarify my earlier comment. i completely agree with you that there wasn’t time for a primary after he stepped down.

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                You’re not clarifying. When I say “There was no time for a primary.” that is obviously after he stepped down. That you take that to be anything but that, well.

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                  that’s not immediately obvious to me, since it’s assuming that it was an inevitability that he’d refuse to step down. and there are many reasons why he should have stepped down much earlier.

                  but i can also understand your side of things, and i can see how it would be obvious from your perspective. im just trying to share my perspective and clear up a misunderstanding. at the end of the day, it seems like we’re both in agreement about the big picture.

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                    Really? The timeline we live in is that he didn’t step down until 3 months prior to the election, and that 3 months was the timeline for a primary. I don’t see this going anywhere so I’m out.

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      Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
      Everybody knows the war is over
      And everybody knows the good guys lost
      Everybody knows the fight was fixed
      The poor stay poor and the rich get rich
      That’s how it goes
      And everybody knows

      Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
      Everybody knows the captain lied
      Everybody got this broken feeling
      Like their father or their dog just died

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      The last 2 weeks of nonstop Trump headlines was the nail in the coffin for me.