“I believe that people deserve to spend more time with their families, loved ones, hobbies and other aspects of life, such as culture. This could be the next step for us in working life,” the prime minister commented on the new proposal.
That’s it, I’m moving to Finland
I think Sweden would be a better bet. They’ve had bigger trials and Finland’s current right wing crony capitalist government would rather see 6 day work weeks with 12 hour shifts to please their corporate overlords.
Eh, Sweden is pretty much in the same boat right now…
24h 4 day work week sounds very, very enticing but snow is my biggest opp here
I hate heat. Hate it. Better to add layers than to sweat half of the year whenever you step outside. Finland, accept me!
I’m sad to announce that climate change has arrived here too.
But for the guy bothered by snow, great news, winters in the southern Finland, especially in the coast, have mostly turned to just a 5 month long wet and windy autumns instead!
Yes, but it arrived in Germany too, and I’m sick of 35°C
Well, with that Atlantic current dying down, Europe might not have to worry about things getting warmer for much longer. Scandinavia especially might get quite a bit colder, like comparable to northern Canada.
Oh if the Gulf Stream stops we are totally fucked - Finland is almost exactly at the same latitude the Northwest Territories of Canada. The capital of Finland would basically get Yellowknife type temperatures, and that would essentially be the warmest place in the entire country.
If that ever happens I’m just going to kalsarikänni myself to death in the snowbank.
Where we are going. You won’t ever have to deal with snow ever again.
Did she push for this when she was prime minister?
The idea floated in august 2019 when Sanna Marin was Minister for Transport and Communications (she did a tweet about that). Since then, it has not been introduced officially to the government agenda. (Source : Reuters)
My first thought as well. So often we see ex leader spouting this type of thing after the fact. But during their time, they toed the party line to keep the working class down.
That’s the right direction but it needs to make sure that the wages stay the same, otherwise everything becomes a part-time job and people are forced to find an additional job to get to their original earnings.
Either way, we need Universal Basic Income
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She did campaign for it back in 2019, wasn’t popular within government then and especially now. Maybe next government might atleast test it?
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4 days work week with 10 hours per working day is reasonable, I will take it anytime.
No.
40 hours a week isn’t some magic number that we have to adhere to. We should be working less.
I’d rather work 32 please
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So is a 4 day work week with 8 hours per working day.
I honestly think a lot of hours we spend working are spent “working.” I know my, and my colleagues, 40 hour weeks certainly are less than 40 hours but I also don’t get paid enough so I think it’s a fair trade off.
I do get my shit done though and work late if I have to so it isn’t like I’m screwing anyone.
Seriously though I think we need to accept that we just don’t need the standard to be 40 hours of labor as the expected time. We arrived at it artificially and can just as easily walk away from that and into a brighter future with less work and more time with our family and friends. I’m sure we would even see productivity gains as folks are happier and healthier.
An interesting idea from Finland here.
She’s so hot right now
Is that the one with all the scandals that more or less amount to this?
I for one want to spend less time with my family.
That’s equally valid of course, but unless you mean your birth family and not your own, the more appropriate and commendable route would be to remove yourself from the wrong family situation and figure out a new, working, one. It’s no benefit to anyone, least to yourself, if it’s not working out. Everyone will be happier for it ultimately, even if it requires some tough choices and a whole bunch of compromises, adaptation and potential heartbreak in the short term.
I mean the same is true for birth family too, but at least there it doesn’t matter as much, since often the first priority and the more day-to-day impactful one will be your own immediate family, so you can simply minimize the need to ever interact with them.
And there’s the moral implication, that you didn’t choose your birth family. But you did choose your own immediate family. So there’s a responsibility there in the latter that isn’t present in the former.
Unless the situation is that you didn’t choose your immediate family either. If it’s not working out, it’s even more of a reason to figure out a way out.
Unless there’s no way out. In which case, and only in this case, your sentiment seems agreeable and hopefully the situation doesn’t last. And if it does, hopefully you get as much time off as possible.
Dude, it was a snarky comments and mostly a joke. Perhaps not really in good taste, idk. Don’t take shit I saw too seriously.
1-size NEVER fits all:
Neither legislating a 60h workweek, nor a 40h workweek, nor a 6d workweek, nor a 4d workweek, CAN fit all diverse kinds of people.
Some are unhappy when NOT working all the time!
Many autistic workaholics would need2 jobs, to be happy in her idea of good, but it wouldn’t ever work right ( 8d work every 7d week??
There NEEDS to be some way for there to be 2 categories of employees: workaholics & humans,
& the measured higher social-support ( including late-life health-care ) amplification for the workaholics obliges a higher tax-rate for companies employing those, in proportion with the percentage of 'em working that way.
( I’d be in the workaholics category, not in the “family” category, just so you understand I’m deeming my own category to be more-costly to social-support systems.
But the Industrial Revolution was on us, not on the family-people.
We are the blockheads who keep bashing-away at making technology work right, see? )
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Overtime exists. You’ll just get paid more if you work 60h. If your employer allows you to work that much.
Sorry, my point is that there are fundamentally-different-motivations, & that fundamentally-different-motivations have to be treated differently, legally … exactly the same as people-without-family can probably work significantly more hours per week than can people-with-children-to-care-for.
It isn’t a question of just putting overtime above 40h/week, it is a question of having 2 distinct populations in the same workforce, & you don’t make the law ignore 1 of them, not the with-family people, AND not the without-family people.
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Sorry but this way you can get paid more if you work more than 40 hours a week. Or are you saying you want to work more without being paid more?
The idea is to place an upper limit on corps for the definition of a full time work week. If you want to work more, go ahead, but your employer shouldn’t be able to compel you to work past that max number of hours in return for benefits. It’s tricky because there’s a legal component and a cultural component to it. Also some businesses will push back (especially service industry) because they will need to change their whole hiring and scheduling.
