The dude clearly murdered them and had violent vigilante fantasies—I don’t argue that one bit.
That said, they still came up to his house, broke a window, and entered with the intention to burgle it. It doesn’t really matter if the window was previously blocked or made of paper—breaking and entering with the intention of burglary is a crime, and having no block on a window isn’t enticement to have your house burgled.
Again, before anyone thinks I’m defending him, I fully agree that he is a murderer. I just think the burglars weren’t innocent either. In Reddit lingo, “everyone sucks here”.
The jury took less than three hours to establish as a matter of fact that none of the shootings were justified or in defense. It’s a fact now, your opinion is just that… An opinion and one not backed by either statute or the court case.
Maybe read more, I already said I’d look for my copy. I’m not magic and I’m not your mom, it will take some time and I also no no legitimate reason to do your legwork. I directed to where and how to gain the transcript to which you said you simply don’t have the time. So what’s your actual complaint, that I’m not doing it fast enough for the lord-god whatever the fuck your name is?
I’m not saying one is worse than the other, rather that both fucked around and found out.
Except it isn’t, you keep saying he had the right for the first few shots the jury found he did not.
I hope none of this comes off as a defense of that asshole, but facts matter, and those teens did commit a crime. I don’t think they deserved to be executed for it, but he was within his rights to defend himself when they broke in to his home. He was not within his rights to execute them after the threat was over.
The dude clearly murdered them and had violent vigilante fantasies—I don’t argue that one bit.
That said, they still came up to his house, broke a window, and entered with the intention to burgle it. It doesn’t really matter if the window was previously blocked or made of paper—breaking and entering with the intention of burglary is a crime, and having no block on a window isn’t enticement to have your house burgled.
Again, before anyone thinks I’m defending him, I fully agree that he is a murderer. I just think the burglars weren’t innocent either. In Reddit lingo, “everyone sucks here”.
You are defending him boss.
The jury took less than three hours to establish as a matter of fact that none of the shootings were justified or in defense. It’s a fact now, your opinion is just that… An opinion and one not backed by either statute or the court case.
I already requested the link for the info you are referencing, and I have told you where I found mine. Please provide a source, I would like to learn.
I did!
The court transcripts which I’ve read, you haven’t and I’m not your goddamn mom. You know the source, go get it for yourself.
Ed: also https://lemmy.world/comment/14056314
Maybe read more, I already said I’d look for my copy. I’m not magic and I’m not your mom, it will take some time and I also no no legitimate reason to do your legwork. I directed to where and how to gain the transcript to which you said you simply don’t have the time. So what’s your actual complaint, that I’m not doing it fast enough for the lord-god whatever the fuck your name is?
If you’re arguing that both the murderer and murder victims “suck” maybe you need to rethink your priorities…
I’m not saying one is worse than the other, rather that both fucked around and found out.
Well that’s strange because one is a convicted murderer.
I find this kind of “appeal to the system when it agrees with me” strange
What do you mean, by any system one is a murderer one is a burglar what’s not to agree with?
And the others probably would have been convicted of burglary if they lived, what’s your point?
Absolutely. If you think unarmed burglary and premeditated murder are the same morally and legally I cannot agree.
Never said that. You are taking everything I say and twisting it.
The man is a murderer, the intruders are burglars, everyone sucks here. That is the only point I have ever made in this thread.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/15490737
Except it isn’t, you keep saying he had the right for the first few shots the jury found he did not.
And I am definitively saying the murderer is worse than his victims
Agreed. Never said he wasn’t.
You are correct, I misspoke there. I was intending to say that I wasn’t saying the burglars were worse than the murderer—it just came out wrong.