What do you mean when you say they “caused untold destruction?” Do you legitimately think Tsarist Russia was better for its people than the USSR, or that the Russian Federation is better for its people now than the USSR was? Do you think the colonized, nationalist China was better for its people than the PRC? Legitimately.
In both the USSR and PRC, life expectancies doubled, literacy rates over tripled, disparity shrank dramatically while rapidly improving the economy, and famines ended in countries where that was previously common. No, not perfect, but undeniably massive improvements, and it is Marxism-Leninism and those millions who adhered to it that accomplished those massive victories.
Marx and Engels developed communism as a scientific critique of capitalism, envisioning a classless, stateless society built on the abolition of exploitation and private property. Their revolutionary theory sought to empower the proletariat, not to impose authoritarianism.
Lenin, Stalin, and Mao departed from this vision. Lenin’s vanguard model centralized power, which under Stalin became a tool for repression. Stalin and Mao betrayed the revolutionary spirit by targeting workers, peasants, and even communists who resisted their distortions of Marxism. Their regimes prioritized the interests of the party-state over the emancipation of the working class.
Despite the harm these deviations caused to the global proletariat and the communist movement, revolutionary theory has advanced. Many contemporary movements reject the errors of authoritarianism, advocating for socialism rooted in democratic, collective power. The struggle for communism continues, undeterred by those who betrayed its principles.
Critique those regimes, which shouldn’t be conflated with the original ideals of communism as a philosophy for human equality. The horrible ones were against communists.
On a planet that produces more food than can be eaten by all the humans living on it, a holocaust worth of people starve to death every year. But this isn’t counted or considered because it’s ‘natural.’
Meanwhile if a country manages to escape that system, it is subjected to brutal siege warfare and sabotage. And when that isolation is compounded by floods or famine, the deaths suffered are considered as failures of the system and deliberate brutality.
You grew up in the most propagandized society in the history of the world and have not done any critical examination to dispel its effect.
Mortality rates in the USSR and PRC went so far down once Socialism was implemented that life expectancy doubled, and nearly doubled in the case of Cuba. Communism was horrible to the previous ruling class, but for the vast majority of people is marked by massive improvements in key metrics like literacy rates, housing rates, lower poverty rates, and life expectancy. These countries did not get worse with Socialism, they were hellish beforehand and it was the Communists that ceaselessly worked to fix their broken countries.
Oh yeah the leaders who caused untold destruction on their own people and started authoritarian regimes… Totally the same
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What do you mean when you say they “caused untold destruction?” Do you legitimately think Tsarist Russia was better for its people than the USSR, or that the Russian Federation is better for its people now than the USSR was? Do you think the colonized, nationalist China was better for its people than the PRC? Legitimately.
In both the USSR and PRC, life expectancies doubled, literacy rates over tripled, disparity shrank dramatically while rapidly improving the economy, and famines ended in countries where that was previously common. No, not perfect, but undeniably massive improvements, and it is Marxism-Leninism and those millions who adhered to it that accomplished those massive victories.
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Very silly people.
there’ll be more; this pill is too bitter to swallow thanks to the depth to which we’re indoctrinated.
For sure, kinda just wanted to see what the response to a pro-Marxism-Leninism meme would be. Seems split 50/50 so far.
Ended up as 2:1 from the tiny fraction of liberals who engaged.
93 up to 63 down, not quite 2:1 but not bad either.
Yes they did, and many people died from it, for some reason poeple don’t understand how horrible communism is
Marx and Engels developed communism as a scientific critique of capitalism, envisioning a classless, stateless society built on the abolition of exploitation and private property. Their revolutionary theory sought to empower the proletariat, not to impose authoritarianism.
Lenin, Stalin, and Mao departed from this vision. Lenin’s vanguard model centralized power, which under Stalin became a tool for repression. Stalin and Mao betrayed the revolutionary spirit by targeting workers, peasants, and even communists who resisted their distortions of Marxism. Their regimes prioritized the interests of the party-state over the emancipation of the working class.
Despite the harm these deviations caused to the global proletariat and the communist movement, revolutionary theory has advanced. Many contemporary movements reject the errors of authoritarianism, advocating for socialism rooted in democratic, collective power. The struggle for communism continues, undeterred by those who betrayed its principles.
Critique those regimes, which shouldn’t be conflated with the original ideals of communism as a philosophy for human equality. The horrible ones were against communists.
On a planet that produces more food than can be eaten by all the humans living on it, a holocaust worth of people starve to death every year. But this isn’t counted or considered because it’s ‘natural.’
Meanwhile if a country manages to escape that system, it is subjected to brutal siege warfare and sabotage. And when that isolation is compounded by floods or famine, the deaths suffered are considered as failures of the system and deliberate brutality.
You grew up in the most propagandized society in the history of the world and have not done any critical examination to dispel its effect.
500 GORILLION 💀 NO 📱
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Mortality rates in the USSR and PRC went so far down once Socialism was implemented that life expectancy doubled, and nearly doubled in the case of Cuba. Communism was horrible to the previous ruling class, but for the vast majority of people is marked by massive improvements in key metrics like literacy rates, housing rates, lower poverty rates, and life expectancy. These countries did not get worse with Socialism, they were hellish beforehand and it was the Communists that ceaselessly worked to fix their broken countries.