edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])

  • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    33 minutes ago

    the ideology of blahajzone isn’t one I 100% agree with but it’s honestly imo the best suited for 196, given that on The Other Website 196 is a fork of 195 that grew to be specifically queer/trans focused. People had other choices like 197, but they specifically chose 196, and I think there’s a point to make in that.

    as for the Lemmy.World choice, I really don’t get it and probably will not migrate there, and really don’t like that you guys are feeding the centralisation and concentration of power when there are so many wonderful instances out there. I like shitjustworks myself because it feels very non-interfery and open, but there’s so many other options too.

    this whole thing honestly feels disheartening given how ‘default’ the choice of lemmy.world feels, like you all put no thought into the decision before making it.

    please just remember that we understand that you all are human and will accept apologies if you think they are necessary

  • glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    24·
    1 hour ago

    I’ve seen a lot of talk about how this move changes the admins the community will be under, but very little about how this will change the randos that pass through. The mods keep saying this won’t change anything, that the moderation will stay the same, etc, but the reason this community is the way it is is that there are a lot of locals that find it. When the new community shows up on l.w’s local page, it will bring in a far different crowd. Their posts, comments, and up/down votes will change the community, and there’s no amount of moderation that will fix that.

    Mods, this is why people are mad you made this change without asking anyone. Many of us do not want an influx of .world users into this space because we know what kind of politics and biases they’ll bring with them and that, even if you moderate the bigots, the normies will still likely overpower the queer voices this community is known for.

  • BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    20·
    2 hours ago

    Adding my voice to the pile. Leave it here. Unlock it and let new mods take over. You can do your thing wherever you want. But let us do our thing where we want.

  • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    38·
    2 hours ago

    We won’t be moving to world with you. We like blahaj and we like 196 being on blahaj. If you don’t want to be here, you should instead just hand over your mod positions to people who do.

  • 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    20·
    2 hours ago

    oh boy i can’t wait to be randomly shadowbanned just like on every lemmy.world community where i open my stupid tranny mouth too much.

  • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    361·
    4 hours ago

    I’m sorry but what the fuck are you on?

    lemmy.world

    Literally the worst instance for a decentralized platform (cuz they’re already too big).

    please be assured we have same mod team

    No that doesn’t assure me. Whichever mods signed off on this should be removed from any 196 community because you took rule too seriously and forgot about your community before posting

    It’s really obvious what this is about. And it’s not a good look for you.

    • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
      15·
      1 hour ago

      If you don’t want to get into it yourself, totally cool, but if anyone else does - what is this about?? Like, I don’t understand the moderatorial and ideological differences referenced that justify bringing 196 to .world.

      I loved having 196 on blahaj specifically, means more exposure to my trans and gender diverse homies and their memes because they feel safe here.

      Edit: To those just joining us, who like me comment before reading the whole thread, this is a good place to start: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713

      [Edit edit: Changed to a LBZ link, because having it be the lemmy.world link is the height of irony]

      • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        6·
        2 hours ago

        Basically lemmy.blahaj.zone has gotten some criticism because of the server rules and stickied instance posts where we are to respect everyone’s identity/neopronouns. There are a few people who identity as something people consider not real, such as dragons. Neopronouns arent necessarily meant to be literally real, and someone may identify as something they feel resembles them such as a dragon, or “fae”. But some people believe that since dragons/fae/etc don’t literally exist then they aren’t valid identities/neopronouns. These people think that lemmy.blahaj.zone is enabling trolls identifing as non-real things. It also means that people in this 196 community need(ed) to respect people’s identities even if they didn’t think they were valid. Apparently that was too much to ask for the mods of this community.

        Personally i don’t know, nor do i care, if the 1-2 people are trolling. If they are, they aren’t typical nasty trolls. They are just like any other user to me. Imo If someone wants to identify as a dragon then good for them. If anything it helps identify people who are openly combative with the instance rules.

        All that is to say, it was clear to me that the mods want to move to another instance where they don’t have to respect identities they don’t consider valid. And my suspicion was right because the mod spelled it out down thread

        […] I can guarantee we will not be expected to entertain trolls […]

      • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        8·
        39 minutes ago

        I can only guess that this is about this instance’s zero-tolerance policy for transphobia. This means there might be higher standards for removing transphobic content than the mods might be capable of meeting / willing to meet. This is just a guess, though - I would like some clarification as well, esp. since in the absence of clarity it just looks like 196 is moving because they don’t want to be vigilant about removing transphobic content, which as nimble pointed out is not a good look. 🤷‍♀️

        EDIT: found the answer

        https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20937206/12464713

        in response to the question:

        Compromise on what? What’s the issue?

        The post doesn’t really say anything spesific [sic]

        We get this response:

        [email protected]:

        Heavy-handed moderation, mostly. Don’t get me wrong, we do love Ada and appreciate her work, but sometimes we’ll see people getting banned or comments getting removed for relatively mild takes. We also often disagreed about the severity of the actions, like ban lengths being way too long considering the reason, or people getting banned over something that really should just be a removal.

        To put it bluntly, (and I mean no disrespect, but) her mod actions often felt very vibes-based. Like her feelings heavily influenced her decisions. We want the rules to be enforced in a more objective fashion.

        So we asked her to let us handle 196 if the content in question wasn’t explicitly trans/queerphobic or illegal, etc… She disagreed, and we respect her view, so we brought up the idea of moving and she gave us her blessing.

        so tl;dr disagreements about 1. what counts as violations, and 2. the severity of punishment for those violations (where Blahaj admins are perceived as too strict and 196 mods wish to be more lenient).

        • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          1 hour ago

          Thank you - asked the question in another place, and while I’d much prefer an offical comment from Ada and/or Moss or the other mods, I’m starting to form a picture.

          If it’s a capability thing I would hope there would’ve been a call for more mods to support the instance-wide rules…easy to say, of course, but I feel like there’s so much love for this community they’d have some volunteers.

          This sucks.

          Edit: Start here, folks: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713

          • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            3·
            55 minutes ago

            I agree it sucks, but I also want to resist the the urge to villainize the 196 mods in the absence of information. Maybe they are just being realistic, or maybe they really prefer to have more moderation autonomy to determine what they consider transphobic - it’s not clear to me.

              • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                2·
                31 minutes ago

                I pretty much agree. It seems more in the spirit of the fediverse to let blahaj 196 to continue with new mods that are more comfortable with the hard line blahaj takes about transphobia, and if the old mods wish to start a new 196 community on .world, there’s nothing stopping them.

              • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                29 minutes ago

                Agreed - putting rationale aside, locking the community and just saying “We are moving our community to .world, go there” without community consultation is a terrible move.

                Man, haven’t had to think this much about the relationships between instances, communities, and userbases re: ‘ownership’ for a while.