Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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    That’s the beauty of a port, the port people can get everything from China or the rest of the world. Of course, likewise, the midle america people can build railroads.

    That’s a very interesting game, but I doubt that the billionaires want to play it.

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      Stop pretending that people who hoard more money & power than entire countries and have to abuse countless workers to get there have the same level of rational thought as you and me.

      It’s like the idea of being a king. When you can, at will, throw folks in jail… it messes you up. It changes how you view the world and your role in it.

      Then remember that it’s not like these guys all just went “I’m a billionaire. That’s it. I won. I’m done”

      They kept chasing money and kept growing. They kept chasing power. You realize that some of them are thinking about more than just being an influential billionaire, right?

      Once again — some of them want their own cities. Look up “freedom cities.” Trump has stated, in a 2-3 minute camera clip, that he would like to auction off federal land to billionaires for them to run their own cities. It is unsaid but implied that they would get to make the laws there.

      It’s literally what Peter Thiel has been trying to accomplish for the rich & wealthy for decades.

      “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” -Peter Thiel

      The only thing these right wingers mean when they say freedom is the freedom for rich people to screw the rest of us even more.

      Power. And. Money. Corrupt. You know the saying. It’s not a meme, buddy. We have thousands of years of history to show us how often rich & powerful go looney

      Hint: it’s most of the time

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        “Trump has stated, in a 2-3 minute camera clip, that he would like to auction off federal land to billionaires for them to run their own cities. It is unsaid but implied that they would get to make the laws there.”

        I saw a story like this. Can’t remember the name, but each district of those bourgeois cities had different castes of society walled off in separate sections to avoid rebellions or revolts against the bourgeois. The sections went from a dystopian hell to paradise like conditions, some sections even resembling society as we know it. I wish I could remember what it was, but you bringing this up reminded me of it. To think a dystopian fiction could possibly become reality is unsettling.

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          Tech Bros like Musk & Thiel spent too much time on 4chan & doing drugs, and with some help with certain other entities, have been spinning 4chan into reality.

          I don’t have the story you’re referencing. But Curtis Yarvin has a quote about that basically his vision for overthrowing democracy was splintering off everybody by spinning fictional realities… INTO reality.

          Partially by splitting everybody into, say different cities (or different social media) where it’s easier to control what people are seeing

          🥲

          As someone who could have been an incel, it’s been horrifying to see 4chan become normalized, become elected and is becoming reality.

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        It’s convenient to explain everything with stupidity and corruption. However I expect that billionaires are more rational than average people. There must be a convincing plan that keeps them in line.

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          That is the dumbest thing you could have possibly said. Are you just lying?

          Take a look at history. How about the Palace of Versailles?

          Rich. People. Are. Not. More. Rational. It is not rational to hoard all of your money is banks while other people starve and get angry at you.

          That convincing plan is greed.

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            It’s not that simple. If you store your money in banks, the banks are going to lend it out, even being allowed to lend several times more than you had put in.

            It’s also rational but evil, to have starving people so that the others are ‘motivated’.

            Versailles was very rational: bind the aristocracy at the capital so that they couldn’t organize revolutions at home.

            But that’s a good argument, Versailles’ aristocrats didn’t see the revolution of the people coming.

            The difference is that Versailles’ aristocrats ignored the change of history whereas the Republicans are changing history. People must be on board with that change. If greed is the plan, how do the billionaires make money by dismantling the USA?

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              Brother. I’ll say it one more time because it’s clear you aren’t following the story from comment to comment

              Peter Thiel, a buddy of Elon Musk, has been trying to get land for billionaires for decades. It is literally the plan to overthrow democracy & give themselves land/city states. Called freedom cities.

              I already said you can google a video of Trump saying it.

              You are literally either lying or in cognitive dissonance. Billionaires are not more rational than us. Power and money corrupts. It always has. It always does. Stop making excuses for rich people or else you advocate for the same monarchy that Elon Musk does

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                I agree with you that Musk and Thiel are stupid or at least front their real plan with a stupid plan.

                My point is that there must be some billionaires who see the stupidity and given that they are billionaires, they have the resources to make themselves heard, they must argue against the plan. However, there is just silence, apart from one Koch brother.

                That silence makes me believe that the shown plan is not the real plan and that it’s a show to distract from something else, most likely something more evil, but which makes economic sense to the other billionaires, unlike the freedom cities.

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                  You’re acting like these billionaires are all a monolith that are all going to act the exact same way.

                  That is a mistake, and one that will cost you, as underestimating people in previous conflicts, revolutions, etc, have before.

                  They are not all knowing. They are not all powerful. They, too, make mistakes and believe lies.

                  Of course it’s not their final plan. We don’t even know what phase 2 of project 2025 is.

                  But everything they’ve openly said about project 2025 has pretty much come true… and all very consistently seems to be working toward this goal of Balkanizing the US. It might not happen during Trump’s presidency. The tech bros plan for longer than 4 years

                  But the tech bros don’t care about EVERY billionaire. They’re not all in the circle. This isn’t the rich guy circle. This is the dark enlightenment tech bro circle.

                  Does it make WAY more sense than the rest of the billionaires just aren’t 100% informed about what’s going on and are trying to hedge their OWN bets?

                  Again, I agree we don’t have the full story. But you are putting almost superhuman levels of intelligence on these billionaires… when it’s just not true

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                    This isn’t the rich guy circle. This is the dark enlightenment tech bro circle.

                    I expect the rich guy circle to have access to the best information sources. Besides, the dark enlightenment circle will talk to them to have them on their side, so they know the details.

                    These people don’t have to rely on newspapers. They can spend 10 million to have ten of the most brilliant people analyze the plan.

                    Simple balkanization doesn’t make sense. I am sure that whatever is shown as the plan is false as long as I don’t see the path to prosperity for the rich guy circle.

                    US democracy is formed under the influence of the rich guy circle. It is what they want to have. Why are they giving it away?