cross-posted from: https://poptalk.scrubbles.tech/post/2333639

I was just forwarded this someone in my household who watches our server. That’s it folks. I’ve been a hold out for a long time, but this is honestly it.

They want me to pay to stream content that I bought from my hardware transcoded also on my hardware.

I’ll say it. As of today, I say Plex is dead. Luckily I’ve been setting up Jellyfin, I guess it’s time to make it production ready.

Edit: I have a Plex Pass. More comments saying ā€œJust buy a plex passā€ are seriously not getting it. I have a Plex Pass and my users are still getting this.

And for the thousandth person who wants to say the same things to me:

  • YES I know I’m unaffected as a Plex Pass owner.
  • My users were immediately angry at it, which made me angry. Our users don’t understand what plex pass is, and they shouldn’t have to, that’s why I had it. The fact that they were pinged even though it should have kept working is horribly sloppy
  • Plex is still removing functionality. I don’t care that ā€œPeople should pay their fair shareā€. If Plex wants to put every new feature behind a paywall, that’s completely okay. They are removing functionality.
    • ā€œBut they have cloud costsā€. Remote streaming is negligible to them. It’s a dynamic DNS service. Plex client logs in, asks where server is, plex cloud responds with the IP and port of where server is located. That’s it.
    • ā€œGood luck finding another remote streamingā€ - Again, Plex just opens up an IP and port. Jellyfin also just opens up an IP and port (Hold on jellyfin folks I know, security, that’s a separate conversation). All ā€œremote streamingā€ is is their dynamic dns. Literal pennies to them. Know what actually is costing them money? Hosting all of that ad-supported ā€œfreeā€ content that they’re probably losing money on.

In short, I don’t care how you justify it. Plex is doing something shitty. They’re removing functionality that has been free for years. I’m not responding to any more of your comments repeating the same arguments over and over.

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    They doubled the price lol. And why pay $80 for something that they have the right to gut at any time?

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        Why pay for anything ever if it’s going to potentially get taken away?

        Because it’s called ā€œlifetimeā€? As in the entire point of the product is that it will not ever be taken away with the exception that you close your account? ā€œWhy pay for anything if there’s nothing enforcing the core premise of the product?ā€ The gardener advertised a ā€œwhole-yard mowā€ for $100, but I’ve already gotten the area around the driveway, and honestly would it really be that bad if they just stopped right now?

        You can talk about odds all you want (although I think around $100 million in VC funding puts those odds squarely in favor of ā€œlifetimeā€ users getting the floor sawed out from under them Looney Tunes-style), but the fact it’s even possible is what’s deeply disturbing, because it’s deliberate. Lifetime’s meaning should be unambiguously stipulated in a contract, not inferred. Know why? Because companies out there advertising ā€œlifetimeā€ subscriptions right now have little disclaimers like ā€œapproximately five years or so but honestly we don’t really know or care lol this license disappears whenever we want it toā€).

        People are assuming it’s for the lifetime of your Plex account, but my response is: based on fucking what? Plex on their website doesn’t seem to specify this anywhere, even in their terms of service. People asking on their official forums receive responses saying things like ā€œprobably for the lifetime of your Plex accountā€ with no sources to anything. I’m not trying to sealion here; I literally can’t find a single instance of Plex stating officially in writing or verbally what ā€œlifetimeā€ actually means to the end user. If Plex isn’t going to rugpull, why can’t they add a couple sentences to their TOS saying something like: ā€œThe purchase of a lifetime pass grants the user a non-transferable license for [blah blah] starting from the date of purchase. This license will not be revoked unless 1) the associated account is terminated by the account holder or 2) the aasociated account is terminated by Plex for one or more of the reasons outlined in section [blah]ā€?

        They could, they should, they don’t, and you have no good explanation, otherwise you would’ve offered one by now. They have enough money to afford a legal team that wouldn’t overlook that. The answer is that they want to reserve the right to destroy the ā€œlifetimeā€ pass whenever they want. If you can find official documentation from Plex Inc. saying that if I buy a lifetime pass today for $250, the license will only end with the termination of the account, then I’ll have no idea why they make this too hard to find, but I’ll take back everything else I said in this comment and stop using ā€œlifetimeā€ in scare quotes. I genuinely want to know if they say anything about this anywhere.