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I was just forwarded this someone in my household who watches our server. Thatās it folks. Iāve been a hold out for a long time, but this is honestly it.
They want me to pay to stream content that I bought from my hardware transcoded also on my hardware.
Iāll say it. As of today, I say Plex is dead. Luckily Iāve been setting up Jellyfin, I guess itās time to make it production ready.
Edit: I have a Plex Pass. More comments saying āJust buy a plex passā are seriously not getting it. I have a Plex Pass and my users are still getting this.
And for the thousandth person who wants to say the same things to me:
- YES I know Iām unaffected as a Plex Pass owner.
- My users were immediately angry at it, which made me angry. Our users donāt understand what plex pass is, and they shouldnāt have to, thatās why I had it. The fact that they were pinged even though it should have kept working is horribly sloppy
- Plex is still removing functionality. I donāt care that āPeople should pay their fair shareā. If Plex wants to put every new feature behind a paywall, thatās completely okay. They are removing functionality.
- āBut they have cloud costsā. Remote streaming is negligible to them. Itās a dynamic DNS service. Plex client logs in, asks where server is, plex cloud responds with the IP and port of where server is located. Thatās it.
- āGood luck finding another remote streamingā - Again, Plex just opens up an IP and port. Jellyfin also just opens up an IP and port (Hold on jellyfin folks I know, security, thatās a separate conversation). All āremote streamingā is is their dynamic dns. Literal pennies to them. Know what actually is costing them money? Hosting all of that ad-supported āfreeā content that theyāre probably losing money on.
In short, I donāt care how you justify it. Plex is doing something shitty. Theyāre removing functionality that has been free for years. Iām not responding to any more of your comments repeating the same arguments over and over.
They doubled the price lol. And why pay $80 for something that they have the right to gut at any time?
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Because itās called ālifetimeā? As in the entire point of the product is that it will not ever be taken away with the exception that you close your account? āWhy pay for anything if thereās nothing enforcing the core premise of the product?ā The gardener advertised a āwhole-yard mowā for $100, but Iāve already gotten the area around the driveway, and honestly would it really be that bad if they just stopped right now?
You can talk about odds all you want (although I think around $100 million in VC funding puts those odds squarely in favor of ālifetimeā users getting the floor sawed out from under them Looney Tunes-style), but the fact itās even possible is whatās deeply disturbing, because itās deliberate. Lifetimeās meaning should be unambiguously stipulated in a contract, not inferred. Know why? Because companies out there advertising ālifetimeā subscriptions right now have little disclaimers like āapproximately five years or so but honestly we donāt really know or care lol this license disappears whenever we want it toā).
People are assuming itās for the lifetime of your Plex account, but my response is: based on fucking what? Plex on their website doesnāt seem to specify this anywhere, even in their terms of service. People asking on their official forums receive responses saying things like āprobably for the lifetime of your Plex accountā with no sources to anything. Iām not trying to sealion here; I literally canāt find a single instance of Plex stating officially in writing or verbally what ālifetimeā actually means to the end user. If Plex isnāt going to rugpull, why canāt they add a couple sentences to their TOS saying something like: āThe purchase of a lifetime pass grants the user a non-transferable license for [blah blah] starting from the date of purchase. This license will not be revoked unless 1) the associated account is terminated by the account holder or 2) the aasociated account is terminated by Plex for one or more of the reasons outlined in section [blah]ā?
They could, they should, they donāt, and you have no good explanation, otherwise you wouldāve offered one by now. They have enough money to afford a legal team that wouldnāt overlook that. The answer is that they want to reserve the right to destroy the ālifetimeā pass whenever they want. If you can find official documentation from Plex Inc. saying that if I buy a lifetime pass today for $250, the license will only end with the termination of the account, then Iāll have no idea why they make this too hard to find, but Iāll take back everything else I said in this comment and stop using ālifetimeā in scare quotes. I genuinely want to know if they say anything about this anywhere.
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