First things first, I don’t doubt it is a bad thing, considering who supports it and who doesn’t.
But my question is what exactly is the issue and what is the current and proposed voting process when it comes to IDs?
Here in my EU country, you have to show some version of a government ID, be it an ID card, drivers license or passport. And we don’t have to pre-register to vote.
So the argument against voter id is that some people can’t get the id they need due to financial reasons or whatever and thus this is disenfranchising minorities. But if you need that very same id to register to vote then your entire argument falls flat on its face.
Ahh this asshole again. Can you confine the bad faith arguments to one thread?
The documents used to prove residency and citizenship aren’t exclusively photo IDs. Voter ID laws of recent conversation have all required photo IDs.
Different IDs. Not ‘the very same’ IDs.
Which you would know if you cared about any of this beyond mud slinging and muddying the waters.
Can we discuss the facts and evidance for arguments not hurl personal insults its such activity us unbecoming of a good faith rational actor.
So as previously stated or can be verified by googling: every single state that currently has photo id requirements for voting either issues a specific voter id for free or waives the fees on existing id if the stated purpose is for voting. Any id requirements or requirements in general for voting are by federal law activities that must have a free option this protection already exists.
The prerequisite id to obtain the free id is the very same id as the id required for voter registration. Most notably birth certificates the form of id most commonly claimed via people in this thread to be hardest to obtain/produce for these alleged disenfranchised groups by people in this thread.
I’m not muddying water I’m simply drawing attention to the hypocrscy of your argument. To resolve your hypocracy you must either argue in favour of abolising all id requirements for voter registration or recind your argument against id requirements for voting. I understand the desire to have ones cake and eat it too but unfortunately that’s not how things work.