• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

    Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

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        23 hours ago

        Boooo to Connect… you’re funny and this really made me laugh on a bad day and I like your other comments too but I can’t follow you. Boooooo

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          Clearly many more. I’m not defending Israel at all. They’re clearly war criminals. However they don’t execute LGBT people in their own country which is the point of the meme. Iran is specifically trying to irradiate LGBTQ people in their own country. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and is incapable of being the “good guy” with the current regime.

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        20 hours ago

        Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?

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          9 hours ago

          Not lesser, just different. The two countries are very different and you can’t really draw a sensible comparison. Additionally I would point out that Iran has been supplying weapons, money, and intelligence to Hamas and Hezbollah for years. Have Hamas been a good thing for Gaza?

          But let’s not forget Yemen. Vastly more people have died in the Yemeni civil war (100s of thousands of civilians) which was started by the houthis, who are an Iranian proxy. They also propped up Bashar al Assad, who used chemical weapons against the Syrian population. They also had a hand in the Sudanese civil war.

          So yeah Iran hasn’t directly been involved in genocide, but they’ve been encouraging and funding it for a good while. Not good guys.

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      Your last paragraph is really out there, making Israel worse because they may have accidentally killed more gays?

      How about we don’t cheer on either? How about we don’t cheer at all? Innocent civilians are dying because a bunch of dictatorial egomaniacs want to feel powerful. I don’t care what their nationality is, people are dying, I’m not cheering anyone.

      Fuck the Israeli genocidal government

      Fuck the Iranian murderous hateful theocratic dictatorship

      Fuck the murderers from Hamas.

      Take all of those against a wall and you finally might have a chance at actual peace there.

      I’m not cheering, I’m crying for the people

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        24 hours ago

        How is it accidental? They are committing genocide. All of their murders are purposeful. Also, I never said anything about cheering, I said I critically support Iran’s defense against Israeli aggression.

        Btw, I agree with you. The ruling class is responsible for all of this, and unless we remove them and make it impossible for a class system to exist, we will perpetually have war.

        All I’m saying is that if someone attacks me, intent on my annihilation, you don’t get to say how I fight back.

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      24 hours ago

      something people with a functional brain

      Okay but this is the internet, and im going to do strong readings of everything and also youre supposed to have all the same mental illness and knowledge as me.

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        20 hours ago

        It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.