People’s minds are growing numb to the madness. This is very similar to what happened in Soviet Russia in the five years leading up to the collapse of the government.
It does seem rather similar to the collapse of Soviet Russia. Increasingly little confidence in the government by citizens all across the country. States that increasingly aren’t seeing any benefit in existing as part of the union. Its quite uncanny actually.
There are differences of course bcz there isn’t as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
I really dont want to find out whats on the other side of that scenario for us, but it doesn’t seem completely unlikely.
Some voted to destroy the United States. Others were failed by the educational system and the media. Irrespective of cause, there’s no going back. We’re now in a place where “fuck you I’ve got mine” and “make me” is the basis of our formal society that only recognizes power in all its forms. I do not know what the future holds. I can only say that if this year were a taro card, it’s Death, as what was changes into something new an unrecognizable.
I figure we’ll see smaller inter-state alliances forming into regional powers. Most likely all of the states that have larger populations will gain a lot of power relative to those with smaller populations. In all likelihood the stratification of wealth will accelerate even further into an absolutely obscene spectacle. The oligarchs will win, in the short term at least, if the federal government falls.
California, Oregon, and Washington kinda do already. All three states often tie legislation to the other two states also passing it. Like locking daylight savings in place if Washington hadn’t dropped the ball.
Those are called interstate compacts, and they tend to be specific to individual laws. I was thinking more along the lines of military alliances, so kind of a more advanced form of this type of political alliance-making
There are differences of course bcz there isn’t as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
You sure? Black separatism was big in the 60s and 70s, and once the dissolution of the Union filters into the wider public consciousness, you’ll probably see Latinos want to do their own thing.
Yes, yes I am sure. We are not the Soviet Union. Our countries collapse may rhyme with history, but it is not exactly the same. We are a country founded by immigrants. Russia was not founded by immigrants in the same way. It has existed in some form for at least a thousand years longer than the U.S., maybe more
I experience the opposite, at least here on Lemmy. It all leads me to conserve my attention for the things that are actually happening.
I mean sure, it’s still draining and hard to keep up with, but I think we all learned to filter out some of the nonsense, and see behind the clown show. Except for those who thrive on the outrage, and not actual concern.
I know this narrative is wide spread, and I have no chance to fight it, but it’s not fucking not.
USSR has collapsed because of a lot of factors, but the most important of them was that the political elite was willing to change (not to be mistaken with to go away). USSR had an infinite space for doubling down deeper and deeper
People’s minds are growing numb to the madness. This is very similar to what happened in Soviet Russia in the five years leading up to the collapse of the government.
It does seem rather similar to the collapse of Soviet Russia. Increasingly little confidence in the government by citizens all across the country. States that increasingly aren’t seeing any benefit in existing as part of the union. Its quite uncanny actually.
There are differences of course bcz there isn’t as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
I really dont want to find out whats on the other side of that scenario for us, but it doesn’t seem completely unlikely.
Some voted to destroy the United States. Others were failed by the educational system and the media. Irrespective of cause, there’s no going back. We’re now in a place where “fuck you I’ve got mine” and “make me” is the basis of our formal society that only recognizes power in all its forms. I do not know what the future holds. I can only say that if this year were a taro card, it’s Death, as what was changes into something new an unrecognizable.
I figure we’ll see smaller inter-state alliances forming into regional powers. Most likely all of the states that have larger populations will gain a lot of power relative to those with smaller populations. In all likelihood the stratification of wealth will accelerate even further into an absolutely obscene spectacle. The oligarchs will win, in the short term at least, if the federal government falls.
California, Oregon, and Washington kinda do already. All three states often tie legislation to the other two states also passing it. Like locking daylight savings in place if Washington hadn’t dropped the ball.
Saved the ball you mean. Daylight-saving time is a curse which should be abolished not set in stone.
At this point I’m down for either daylight time or standard time as long as we stop changing back and forth!
I’ll grudgingly accept that as less awful than our current arrangement.
Those are called interstate compacts, and they tend to be specific to individual laws. I was thinking more along the lines of military alliances, so kind of a more advanced form of this type of political alliance-making
There was the Western States pact from the beginning of the covid-19 pandemic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_States_Pact
Balkanization comes to mind
You sure? Black separatism was big in the 60s and 70s, and once the dissolution of the Union filters into the wider public consciousness, you’ll probably see Latinos want to do their own thing.
Yes, yes I am sure. We are not the Soviet Union. Our countries collapse may rhyme with history, but it is not exactly the same. We are a country founded by immigrants. Russia was not founded by immigrants in the same way. It has existed in some form for at least a thousand years longer than the U.S., maybe more
The documentary, HyperNormalisation, was made nearly a decade ago, in 2016.
Just a fun tid bit I thought I’d share.
Edit: spelling. Thanks, u/A_norny_mousse
Yep. It’s been a while. Already contained Trump.
If you (anybody) haven’t watched it yet, please do.
BTW - and I don’t say this to nitpick, just to make it easier to find - the documentary is named Hypernormalisation.
I experience the opposite, at least here on Lemmy. It all leads me to conserve my attention for the things that are actually happening.
I mean sure, it’s still draining and hard to keep up with, but I think we all learned to filter out some of the nonsense, and see behind the clown show. Except for those who thrive on the outrage, and not actual concern.
I know this narrative is wide spread, and I have no chance to fight it, but it’s not fucking not.
USSR has collapsed because of a lot of factors, but the most important of them was that the political elite was willing to change (not to be mistaken with to go away). USSR had an infinite space for doubling down deeper and deeper
Here’s hoping it’s leading up to a collapse this time too.