• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    21·
    11 months ago

    My “Liked Music” playlist has 630 songs.
    Cool, but can we talk about how YouTube Music only shuffles the first twenty or so? I desperately need a way to export my playlist so I can pirate the music and properly shuffle it on an open source mp3 player.

    “Piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue.” – Gabe Newell

  • chrishazfun@lemmy.world
    21·
    11 months ago

    likes more than a million songs on spotify, plays auto playlist on shuffle

    look inside queue

    the same 50 songs you’ve heard already

  • nifty@lemmy.world
    131·
    11 months ago

    I haven’t been using social media for 10+ years besides some on/off shitposting on hacker news. I’d love to find something for music management that’s not sucky and uber corpo like Spotify. I use Bandcamp for buying from niche artists and sound cloud for finding new labels, but sound cloud is too Spotifyish now. Deezer used to be nice before they started region restrictions.

    • TurtleTourParty@midwest.socialEnglish
      31·
      11 months ago

      I’m currently using Qobuz. The interface is a bit clunky and the catalog is smaller, but there are no podcasts, audiobooks, or social features.

      My favorite ever streaming service was Mog. It was bought by Beats and ruined.

      • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        For those in the US that can’t use Quobuz (like myself), Tidal has social features, but you can turn them off.

        I moved to Tidal from YT Music because of its awful bloat and love it. It’s simple and I’ve not found it to be lacking in anything. Some listings may be wrong sometimes, but they’re super responsive to feedback for fixing it.

        • TurtleTourParty@midwest.socialEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Qobuz is available in the US (Qobuz Availability).

          I tried Tidal for a while back when they only had the high-fi tier. It was nice but not worth the $20 a month IMO. It looks like they have cheaper tiers now.

          Another plus is both services sound much better than Spotify.

  • djsoren19@yiffit.net
    11·
    11 months ago

    I don’t make new playlists to split by genre, I do it so the shuffle will actually fucking work. I don’t know what dogshit algorithms Youtube/Spotify employ, but for any playlist over 100 songs the “shuffler” will typically just go through the same ~20 songs and expect you to not notice. I just want a different order!

    Anyway now I have like 40 playlists with 20 songs each.

    • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      61·
      11 months ago

      Apparently back in the covered wagon days when shuffle features were truly random, the listener would occasionally be burdened by hearing two songs by the same artist in a row. Literally no one complained about this, so of course upper management decided that this must be “fixed” immediately, so that’s what led to shuffle features becoming noticeably worse than when they were simply random, which is all anyone ever wanted them to be.

      • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        11 months ago

        Actually, and I don’t mean to be that guy, but people did complain about it.

        True random means that you could end up with songs by the same artist being played four or five times in a row, which makes people think it’s not random at all. Humans are really bad at understanding randomness, so a little help to make it feel more random improves satisfaction.

        But at this point, it’s gone too far and I’m almost certain that shuffling involves always playing the most popular songs by an artist first, then random covers and remixes, then the back-catalog of works.

        On a side note, I wish I could exclude remixes and covers when shuffling through an artist’s stuff.

        • BluesF@lemmy.world
          1·
          11 months ago

          All I want is shuffle not to repeat until I’ve heard (or skipped) every song.

          I mean really what they should do is provide some degree of control over the shuffle parameters… But hey ho, back to listen to whatever Spotify thinks is my favourite song.

        • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          11·
          11 months ago

          Humans are really bad at understanding randomness

          Not all of us. I can’t imagine not understanding that if something’s random, there’s a possibility that something like playing the same artist five times in a row might happen. It’s cute when that happens, it’s a thing that should be possible and one of the things that was so much fun about shuffle.

          I don’t want to be that guy either, but do you have a source showing that people really did complain about this? I’ve heard it said so many times that they did, but I don’t believe it. I think it’s just an excuse for big corporations like Spotify and Apple to manipulate algorithms to deliberately promote certain artists. I don’t believe it was ever well intentioned, and I resent that there’s no feature for people who want “shuffle” to work like it should work – in a completely random fashion. Or at least give us the option. The fact that there’s not even a randomization option at all should make clear that this was not development that was done in good faith or for the benefit of the listener. They actually removed a feature in order to promote their corporate crap.

          It’s so obvious that Spotify is promoting certain artists. As soon as I launch the app, it’s always the same shit on the front page. At this point, I could pretty well predict what major-label crap is in all those “recommended” playlists they create for me. It’s so bad. Honestly, if it weren’t so damn inconvenient to do so, I’d just rip songs from the CDs I buy from independent labels and put them on my phone. I’m pretty sure there are some apps that have a genuinely random shuffle. Just got to find one.

          • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            https://engineering.atspotify.com/2014/02/how-to-shuffle-songs/

            Spotify themselves got that feedback that their truly random shuffle didn’t feel random, so they changed it to an algorithm. And this is from 2014 when they made the switch, so they were only just diving into algorithmic promotion.

            I don’t disagree that Spotify now promotes certain artists and has really messed with their shuffle algorithms, but they left the true random behind because people complained about it.

  • HenryWong327@lemmy.ml
    8·
    11 months ago

    Assuming an average of 4 minutes per song, that is 7 years and 8 months of music. I wonder how much time the ads would add?

    • 0ops@lemm.ee
      1·
      11 months ago

      Yeah, if I’m not in the mood I just skip until I find a song that hits. I’m way too lazy to make playlists

  • shastaxc@lemm.ee
    32·
    11 months ago

    I understand the joke, I think. But what do the devil and Jesus have to do with it? If either one of them is evil it’s what Jesus is saying, so that can’t be it. What am I missing here?